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Integration weekend: Sep 22-24, we've been warned!
January 5, 2024
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phrank said

So what you say you were told here is a big deal to me, because it has large potential ramifications and I've never heard of a financial institution doing this before. I discussed this with other people I know who use Hubert and we all asked them by various means if it was true. The final person I know who said they would look into it just replied and all of them said Hubert told them it was not true, that the rate that was current when you made the request is the rate you would get on your GIC through this current, cumbersome process.

Hubert does offer rate guarantees, with limitations. This is from their FAQ's:

The Fine Print

Do you offer rate guarantees?

Sure do. We offer rate guarantees for new deposits and registered transfers:

  • up to 14 days for new members
  • up to 45 days for registered transfers from other financial institutions

If you wish to place a rate guarantee for any of the above, please contact us to reserve your rate today.

The wording suggests that rate guarantees are not automatic and one needs to contact them to obtain a guarantee.

January 6, 2024
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Hubert does offer rate guarantees, with limitations. This is from their FAQ's:

The Fine Print

Do you offer rate guarantees?

Sure do. We offer rate guarantees for new deposits and registered transfers:

  • up to 14 days for new members
  • up to 45 days for registered transfers from other financial institutions

If you wish to place a rate guarantee for any of the above, please contact us to reserve your rate today.

The wording suggests that rate guarantees are not automatic and one needs to contact them to obtain a guarantee.  

Up to 14 days for "NEW MEMBERS". Does that mean rate guarantee only applies to deposits from someone when they first join, not for new deposits from EXISTING members??
In any event, a CSR stated, rightly or wrongly, no GIC rate hold if you mail in a cheque!

January 6, 2024
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And from FAQ
Terms
"You cannot update maturity instructions inside internet banking but you can contact us to update. All term investments are set to automatically renew unless otherwise instructed. Don’t panic if you forgot to notify, you have 14 days grace period after renewal to update your instructions".

If the call is not available, do I allow to use chat or email to update the instruction? is update includes cancel renewal? or only allow update to another terms ? not very clear.

January 6, 2024
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GR said

Up to 14 days for "NEW MEMBERS". Does that mean rate guarantee only applies to deposits from someone when they first join, not for new deposits from EXISTING members??
In any event, a CSR stated, rightly or wrongly, no GIC rate hold if you mail in a cheque!

Yes, the wording suggests no GIC rate guarantee for someone who has already been onboarded and not doing a registered account transfer.

I suspect that 14 days for new members is to allow for the time needed to onboard.

The Hubert agent could be right. With immediate mobile phone cheque deposit available, Hubert isn't going to be keen to give a GIC rate hold/guarantee if one decides to mail in a cheque instead.

GIC rate holds/guarantees were really not needed before. I was able to open a Hubert term deposit online and pull funds from an external account into the new term deposit. No need to pull funds into a savings account first and wait for the hold to expire.

January 6, 2024
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just online my e statement:
even it is not big deal, online I can see my Accelerate share $5 & Hubert sharer $5, but in e statement I cannot see the Accelerate member share $5.

January 6, 2024
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mw said

If the call is not available, do I allow to use chat or email to update the instruction? is update includes cancel renewal? or only allow update to another terms ? not very clear.  

I was told you must call in to purchase or change maturity instruction.

Yes, update can include 'cancel renewal' of the term or, in other words: at maturity pay interest plus principal into your variable rate savings account.

January 6, 2024
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Try the chat feature see what can be done using that.

January 8, 2024
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FYI: They did honour the 5.75% rate for the GIC I requested 2 days before the rate cut. However it sounded like a real manual mash up -- info going to the back office to be entered into the system and then GIC created - and apparently they were about a day behind. My funds left external bank before midnight prior to the day of the rate drop. Anyway, would be curious to see what happened to anyone who purchased late on the day before the drop - as it likely would not have been entered into the system in time.
They actually put all of my savings account (balance plus new money) into the GIC which was not what I had requested although its moot as so small - but instructions are not being followed precisely.
Likely will not have to deal with them now till 2025 -- hope things are closer to the original Hubert by then.

January 8, 2024
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thegov said
FYI: They did honour the 5.75% rate for the GIC I requested 2 days before the rate cut. However it sounded like a real manual mash up -- info going to the back office to be entered into the system and then GIC created - and apparently they were about a day behind. My funds left external bank before midnight prior to the day of the rate drop. Anyway, would be curious to see what happened to anyone who purchased late on the day before the drop - as it likely would not have been entered into the system in time.
They actually put all of my savings account (balance plus new money) into the GIC which was not what I had requested although its moot as so small - but instructions are not being followed precisely.
Likely will not have to deal with them now till 2025 -- hope things are closer to the original Hubert by then.  

The same for me today. Phone calls, manual transactions, delays (initiated last Wednesday, finally fulfilled today). But...very good service from my CSR, and no problems having the 5.75% two year rate honoured.

January 8, 2024
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I have to call them tomorrow as my Gic showed only 5.5%. I purchased a 2yr Gic on Jan. 2. Money was pulled from Tangerine Jan. 04 but it was on hold. Gic was created today at 5.5% but was opened Jan. 04.

January 9, 2024
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Someone on RFD reported that customer service rep at Access told them:
Hubert is eventually going to restart the happysavings.ca site as it is now still alive but redirects you to the Access site. Also linked external banks will return online.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/hubert-access-cu-transition-2642712/5/

January 9, 2024
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Briguy said
Someone on RFD reported that customer service rep at Access told them:
Hubert is eventually going to restart the happysavings.ca site as it is now still alive but redirects you to the Access site. Also linked external banks will return online.

https://forums.redflagdeals.com/hubert-access-cu-transition-2642712/5/  

Makes zero business sense if u ask me….

January 10, 2024
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savemoresaveoften said

Makes zero business sense if u ask me….  

It doesn't mean much if it's just a domain name, the back end could be all the exact same. Where it could make some business sense is if they intend to keep Hubert going, it would prevent people from contacting Access when they should contact Hubert or visa versa.

On another note, everyone I know who uses Hubert has now had their TFSA GIC terms honored. Some had a lower interest rate applied initially until complaining and I waited until they told me it was resolved before giving feedback, so make sure you check your details if you haven't already.

January 10, 2024
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phrank said

It doesn't mean much if it's just a domain name, the back end could be all the exact same.  

Hubert members were 'onboarded' to the Accelerate system 'backend'.

I had accounts at both, so I still log in with my Accelerate password. My Hubert accounts all show up there now along with my Accelerate accounts. My NEW Hubert membership is my old Accelerate membership number.

They went to great lengths to get rid of the Old Hubert backend.

Access C.U. chose the Accelerate model over the Hubert model. Obviously they hated the self serve features of old Hubert!

Welcome to Accelerate the new Hubert. There's no going back.

January 10, 2024
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scrooge said

Hubert members were 'onboarded' to the Accelerate system 'backend'.

I had accounts at both, so I still log in with my Accelerate password. My Hubert accounts all show up there now along with my Accelerate accounts. My NEW Hubert membership is my old Accelerate membership number.

They went to great lengths to get rid of the Old Hubert backend.

Access C.U. chose the Accelerate model over the Hubert model. Obviously they hated the self serve features of old Hubert!

Welcome to Accelerate the new Hubert. There's no going back.  

Yeah, that's what I said.

January 10, 2024
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phrank said

Yeah, that's what I said.  

I wonder if they ended up with the level of deposits they expected.

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January 10, 2024
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lol I guess another way of saying it is ….. did they remain with an expected amount deposits after the mini exodus? I can just imagine the inside sales job…..oh we might lose a few customers but no major loss. sf-surprised

I have taken 2 chunks of $50,000 away and another $30,000 will leave in the near future. But for transparency, I had plans to leave anyways. But this mess has quickened some of the processes and has firmed my mind to get out as each GIC matures.

So they haven’t seen the full affect of the “leavers”. The rates won’t entice me to stay. Nor will the resurrection of the old, but better, Hubert website entice me.

That old saying applies here….if it ain’t broke….don’t fix it.

January 16, 2024
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I had to call Hubert last week and today and expected long waiting times. To my surprise, wait time was no more than a minute last week and today the phone was picked up after two rings. Perhaps all the customers have already left Hubert and I am their only customer now. sf-smile
Anyways, I chatted with the CSR and learned that you can use online chat to purchase a GIC if the money is already in Hubert, but you must call in to transfer money to/from external accounts. She also mentioned that IT is working on bringing back some of the self serve capabilities and there will be a communication in February.

January 16, 2024
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I called Hubert last week to have something done. Queue of about 20. Requested a call back. Over an hour later they called. The lady took my info and 'submitted the request' for me.

After a week of checking my accounts every day, my request was not completed.

So I called again yesterday, this time was picked up right away, talked to Eric who completed my request while I was on the phone and waited while I logged out and back in to confirm it was done.

So if you get a call back and they 'put in a request' for you, it is likely an Access Credit Union employee who doesn't know what they are doing, as far as Hubert accounts go, so don't wait too long before you call again! I'll only give it 1 business day next time!

I did try chat first, a week ago, and was told that anything to do with RRSPs must call in.

January 16, 2024
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scrooge said
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So I called again yesterday, this time was picked up right away, talked to Eric who completed my request while I was on the phone and waited while I logged out and back in to confirm it was done.
So if you get a call back and they 'put in a request' for you, it is likely an Access Credit Union employee who doesn't know what they are doing, as far as Hubert accounts go, so don't wait too long before you call again! I'll only give it 1 business day next time!
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Funny! I talked to Eric roughly one week ago and he put in the request ... which has not been completed, yet. I also talked last Thursday with Bonnie, for a different, yet similar request and it was done while on the phone. How do they decide which requests are done immediately and which ones need (more than?) a week to be completed.

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