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Plooto vs RBC PayEdge for accounts payable automation

Bookkeeping on paper

In a previous article, I reviewed some electronic options for paying your suppliers. One major disadvantage with most electronic payment options like wires and Interac e-Transfers is that they are not fully integrated into other software (such as a company’s bookkeeping software). Another disadvantage is that these options require a business owner to really trust someone to have full banking access, or to perform all the payment tasks herself. This translates to more administrative work, as opposed to running the actual business.

In today’s world of fintech, these disadvantages can be easily overcome. In this article, I (as a professional accountant) describe two popular options I have used to increase the efficiency of the accounts payable cycle: Plooto and RBC PayEdge. Plooto is an independent fintech startup which has been operating since 2015. RBC PayEdge used to be called WayPay Inc. It was also a startup but was acquired by Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) in mid-2019. The app’s functionality has not changed.

A better workflow

Both Plooto and RBC PayEdge are services that act as intermediaries between your books, your bank, and your recipient, and allow you to process payments in a secure and flexible way. The steps are roughly as follows:

  1. Supplier invoice arrives.
  2. Invoice is entered into the accounting system.
    1. This can be done manually by yourself or your bookkeeper. Or better yet, automate!
  3. Accounting system syncs with payment service.
    1. This is optional.
  4. Outstanding payables reviewed and submitted for review.
    1. Can be done by you or your bookkeeper.
  5. Payment service sends email to reviewer to notify them of pending payment.
    1. This is optional.
  6. Reviewer submits payment for processing.
  7. Payment service sends emails to both sender and recipient.
    1. When payment is approved, and also when it’s deposited in the recipient’s bank, so two emails in total for each person.
  8. Payment service syncs with accounting software to mark payment as complete.
    1. This is optional

Side note: You might ask, what about the accounts receivable cycle? That’s a bit different and I will touch on it later on.

Getting started

Set up: Connection to your bank

If you’ve ever used PayPal, you will be familiar with the process of connecting your bank account to an outside service. Plooto and RBC PayEdge both verify your identity (note, it must be a business) and there are procedures to follow to connect your bank account. The process takes several business days. There can be separate forms to fill out for domestic and foreign currency transactions.

Here is an image of the RBC PayEdge bank accounts view:

RBC PayEdge bank accounts view

Set up: Connection to your accounting software

Both solutions connect to popular cloud accounting software. I’ve had success with both QuickBooks Online (QBO) and Xero. As soon as a new invoice appears in QBO, it syncs with Plooto or RBC PayEdge, including attachments (such as a PDF copy of the invoice). When the payment clears, QBO is updated automatically.

Integration greatly reduces the chance of human error (data entry mistakes), and saves time.

Here is what a tax instalment payment looks like on the QBO banking page:

RBC PayEdge tax instalment payment appearing in QuickBooks Online

Tiers of approval

For most of my clients, I do not have payment approval rights. This means I can set up a payment and submit it, but my client makes the final approval. My client receives a notification via email and can approve the payment electronically from anywhere in the world as long as there is internet access.

For a larger operation, you can set up multiple approvers (similar to “dual signature” on cheques), and approval limits (“Manager James can approve up to $5,000 per payment”).

You need the recipient’s bank information

But, you only need it once. When a new invoice arrives, I send an email to the vendor on behalf of my client asking for a void cheque. I then enter the bank information into Plooto or RBC PayEdge. Clearly in this case there is trust between my client and myself, as this is sensitive information. Alternatively, a client can restrict staff to not be able to enter or adjust bank information.

Here is an example of the supplier setup screen from RBC PayEdge:

RBC PayEdge: Add supplier

Here is the equivalent screen with Plooto:

Plooto: Add supplier contact information
Plooto: Add supplier method of payment

Once you have set up your suppliers, and started to enter your payables, you’ll start to see a good overview similar to this example Plooto dashboard:

Plooto dashboard

You have to be a little bit patient

We’re used to Interac e-Transfers and wires that move funds quickly. However, in this case, both services take 3-4 business days to deposit the payment into the recipient’s bank account. This has more to do with banking regulations than Plooto or RBC PayEdge’s abilities. To expedite the process by a day or so, you can move funds ahead of time into a virtual wallet (that is, a pre-funded balance).

Record keeping

If there are any issues in the payment, or if the vendor can’t find it, records are easily accessible. If you have trouble, Plooto and RBC PayEdge could be more responsive in terms of customer service than a big bank.

Auto-schedule and deferral of payment

It’s possible to post-date a payment, or set up a regularly recurring payment, such as monthly rent.

Comparing Plooto and RBC PayEdge

Cost

At the moment, RBC PayEdge charges $1 per domestic payment (slightly higher for Canada Revenue Agency remittances). A foreign wire is $16. There are options for a flat monthly charge as well.

Plooto charges a monthly fee of $25 which covers 10 domestic transactions and one foreign payment. Starting with the 11th transaction, each domestic payment is $0.50.

Foreign exchange is competitive as well (that is, the fees are lower than a major bank), but it’s always good to check with your bank to see if you can get a better rate. You might still be better off using a service dedicated to foreign exchange and foreign payments, such as Wise (formerly TransferWise) or OFX.

You also have to consider any charges on your bank’s side. Payments made through RBC PayEdge and Plooto should be considered “pre-authorized transfers” that most banks don’t charge extra for, or are counted as standard transactions within your bank’s monthly plan limits.

Ownership

As mentioned above, RBC PayEdge is owned by RBC. This makes it an easier sell with clients. The downside is that it’s no longer a nimble startup. Fee structure and other functionality could change based the parent company’s goals.
Last I spoke with Plooto, it intended to remain independent.

What’s it like to “deal” with them

In general, I found both companies fairly easy to communicate with. I found Plooto to be quicker to respond, though.
In terms of integration and the various menus, Plooto wins. For example, accounting software integration is automatic in Plooto whereas RBC PayEdge requires that you click to “sync” and then wait. For foreign wires, Plooto requires less recipient information to be entered (i.e., foreign bank account information), whereas RBC PayEdge requires more (full foreign bank address, full foreign recipient address). RBC PayEdge data entry screens are also trickier in some cases.

Extras

RBC PayEdge does not at the moment have accounts receivable functionality. Plooto does. There are some factors to consider, including your relationship with your customers and getting pre-authorized payment agreements.

Conclusion

I am so glad I implemented one of the above systems for each of my clients. The pandemic has been tough and I can’t imagine what it would have been like if on top of everything we also had to deal with paper payments and cheques. The transition to working remotely has been quite seamless for all the clients who were willing to move to the cloud and adopt new technology.

I highly recommend that you try out the above solutions.

About the author

I am a Chartered Professional Accountant working somewhere in Canada. I provide controllership, training, and consulting services to small and medium sized businesses. I also work with non-profit organizations. I write only about my experiences in the business world and I am not selling or advertising any company or service, including my own. Audrey Silva is my pen name.

Savers Roundup March 2021: Which bank has the easiest online opening account process?

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Motive Financial headlines savings account rate drops

The first savings account rate changes on our comparison chart in 2021 are decreases: First, Outlook Financial decreased its regular savings account and TFSA interest rate from 1.20% to 1.10%. This was most recently followed by equivalent decreases at MAXA Financial (from 1.20% to 1.10%). Peoples Trust has decreased its savings account and TFSA rates from 1.30% to 1.20%. Most notably, Motive Financial decreased its Savvy Savings account and TFSA interest rate from 1.55% to 1.25%.

Canadian Tire Bank is still our savings account rate leader at 1.80%, followed by Bridgewater Bank at 1.55% and EQ Bank and Wealth One Bank of Canada at 1.50%. EQ Bank still has the top TFSA (and RRSP) rate at 2.30%, although time will tell how long those rates will last.

Does EQ Bank have the easiest online account opening process?

Last summer, our forum members highlighted a few financial institutions with fully online account opening processes. This month, there’s been a new discussion about which financial institutions have the easiest online account opening process. EQ Bank takes the crown according to our forum members, with Tangerine Bank and Hubert Financial garnering some mentions as well.

GIC rates are mostly unchanged

Generally, GIC rate changes have been few and far between to start 2021.

Motive Financial has decreased its chart-leading GIC rates, leaving Wealth One Bank of Canada as the 5-year rate leader at 1.90%. Wealth One is tied for the top 3-year and 4-year GIC rates at 1.65% and 1.70%. Peoples Trust and LBC Digital have the highest 2-year GIC rate at 1.60%, and Peoples Trust has the highest 1-year GIC rate at 1.55%.

Promotions and credit card cash back offers

The latest addition to our promotions page is Tangerine Bank’s targeted 1.50% new deposit promo between March 9 and July 31. If you are a current customer, check your Insights tab to see if you have received the offer.

On our cash back website, we have a few elevated cash back offers for the rest of March: $60 cash back for signing up for a Tangerine Money-Back Credit Card or World Mastercard, and $100 cash back for signing up for one of a trio of Scotiabank credit cards: the Momentum Visa Infinite Card, Passport Visa Infinite Card, and Gold American Express Card.

Savers Roundup February 2021: New savings account options; RRSP-eligible promotions; a CDIC contest with $10,000 in prizes

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New year, new banks

Looking for a new bank? Not only are there plenty of existing options from long-established financial institutions, but there are also brand new accounts to choose from.

New Ontario-only online bank Saven Financial (a division of FirstOntario Credit Union) has a 1.55% savings account and a set of GICs that include a 2.05% 5-year GIC.

Neo Financial, which launched last year, no longer forces you to apply for its credit card before you can open a savings account, although you must still use its mobile app to open the savings account for now. Neo Financial’s savings account, which is technically held behind the scenes by Concentra Bank, has an interest rate of 1.55%.

Lastly, Concentra Bank has its own savings account with a 1.55% interest rate, but for now this savings account is only available if you have a GIC with them.

1.55% is the second highest savings account interest rate on our comparison chart, whereas 2.05% for a 5-year GIC is better than any other rate on our GIC comparison chart.

Promos before RRSP season ends

Are you looking for a place to make your RRSP contributions before the March 1, 2021 deadline for the 2020 tax year? There are quite a few RRSP-eligible promotions on our promotions page, including the following:

More reading: Retirement savings rules, a CDIC contest, and tax credits

Accounts payable: Paying suppliers and vendors electronically in Canada

Electronic money transfer

Previously, I discussed the disadvantages of using physical means of payment — specifically, cheques — for paying your small business’s suppliers and vendors. In this article, I will review some electronic alternatives to cheques.

Electronic payment options for small businesses

There are quite a few options that all offer advantages over cheques.

Pre-Authorized Debit (PAD)

If you have a vendor that bills on a regular basis and you have a good business relationship, the easiest long-term option for you would be to sign a Pre-Authorized Debit (PAD) agreement. It does take some initial setup, since you need to provide them with your bank information (often with a void cheque) and they will withdraw funds when a bill is due. This can work well with a credit card company or a utility provider. Smaller providers, such as a bookkeeper, can also bill this way. There will be no charge to you, and there is no need for active involvement on your part (or your bookkeeper), since the payee initiates the withdrawal.

Credit card payments

Some of your suppliers or vendors probably accept credit card payments. This can be convenient for both parties, and in some cases the vendor might regularly auto-charge your card. There are fees on the receiving end, which means this is not a widely accepted method of payment, especially for your smaller suppliers and vendors.

Online bill payment

Some companies pay banks to include them in a list of online payees. To pay a bill, you need to first set up the payee through your online banking interface by searching for the payee and entering your account number. Then to transfer the funds you need to enter the amount. There will be no charge to you, but this option does require active involvement on your part. The payment is processed by the next business day, although it might take a few days for your payee to recognize it as received.

Interac e-Transfer

The vast majority of Canadians have heard of Interac e-Transfers. To set up a payee, you simply need to enter their email address. To send funds, you need to enter the amount and likely create a password which the payee enters as they accept the funds. Some payees have configured automatic deposit, so that they don’t have to enter a password — the funds are deposited in their account as soon as you initiate the payment.

There may be a charge to you, depending on your banking arrangement. One of my clients that uses e-Transfers pays $1.50 per payment. Other clients pay nothing, as it’s included in their banking plan. This option requires active involvement on your part. Payment is processed the same day, provided that the payee accepts the payment.

Electronic Fund Transfers (EFT)

Electronic Funds Transfers (EFTs) are a lesser known arrangement for small businesses, and are usually included in a higher tier banking plan. They’re roughly equivalent to Automatic Clearing House (ACH) payments in the USA.

An EFT requires you to know both the recipient’s bank details. You might need to request a void cheque and enter the information yourself. Then the process is similar to an Interac e-Transfer, except there is no need to create a password, and the funds are automatically deposited without requiring any acceptance on the payee’s part. This payment process does require active involvement on your part. Funds are usually transferred overnight.

You can speak to your bank to see what options are available, and the associated fees. One of my clients that uses this method pays $0.85 per transfer.

Wires and alternatives for international payments

Wires are a reliable method to send funds, especially internationally. You would need quite a bit of information, especially for international wires, such as IBAN / SWIFT numbers and the recipient’s bank address. Wires are also expensive. They can cost anywhere from $15 to $70, with additional fees on the recipient’s end, and that’s not counting any potential foreign exchange costs.

A wire is fairly quick (can be completed overnight) and does require active involvement on your part. However, if there is foreign currency exchange involved, consider using a third-party service such as Wise (formerly TransferWise) or OFX, where you can save a significant amount not just on the wire transfer fee, but also on the foreign exchange fee and spread.

What to consider when evaluating the options

The electronic options above are all quite reliable and are less prone to fraud and error as compared to cheques. As long as you enter all information correctly, the recipient will receive the funds relatively quickly. You also have more control over the process, since you don’t need anyone to print cheques and mail them.

There are still limitations and other factors to consider when evaluating your electronic payment options. As well, your suppliers or vendors might all prefer different methods of payment. Sadly, there is no silver bullet in comparison to cheques.

Dollar limits

Online bill payments, Interac e-Transfers, and EFTs can all be subject to bank limits. I have some clients who have a daily $3,000 maximum for cash outflows. Maximums can often be increased if you speak with your bank.

Domestic vs. international

Your payment method may be limited only to domestic transactions, whereas you’d have to use a different method for international payments.

Data entry and detail

Do you have a lot of time for manual administrative work? You have to make sure all information such as email addresses and bank account numbers are entered correctly. And each time you process a payment you have to enter it yourself, unless you allow a bookkeeper or assistant full access to the bank account, which brings us to the next consideration.

Tiers of approval

Not all business owners want to give employees full access to the company’s online bank account. A lot of business owners continue using physical cheques simply because it allows a segregation of duties: a bookkeeper prepares cheques and does all the admin work, the owner signs, and the bookkeeper then mails the cheques. The above electronic payment options do not generally allow for tiers of approval, except in cases of specialized banking arrangements (for a fee, of course).

Troubleshooting on the payee’s side

Most people want to receive money, right? Well, I would answer “yes”, but not everyone is so good at actually getting this accomplished. Take an Interac e-Transfer for example: some of my clients (and their vendors) routinely neglect to check their emails, or maybe the email goes to spam, or maybe they gave the wrong email address to begin with. I’m not saying they are all scatterbrained. It’s just that not everyone is particularly detail oriented and maybe they are too busy to look at some things.

Now, you can say that if a payee misses a payment email, or deposits it but forgets about it, it’s fully their problem. I agree. But how much time do you want to spend resolving disputes and checking old emails to prove your innocence?

Inability to auto-schedule or defer

Unlike a post-dated cheque, not all of the above methods allow you to schedule multiple payments in advance or defer a payment to a later date. This means you can sometimes only process payment when you are available.

Time and cost

The transfer of funds itself, when fully electronic, should not be costly. However, some are more costly than others, and cost is almost measured in terms of your time.

Record keeping

Every business owner needs accurate reports to know how the company is doing. For example, what are the remaining unpaid bills and when are they due? Let’s say you had a change of staff or you got super busy and now you’re behind on your bookkeeping. How will you sort out who was paid and when and for what? You may have to spend time checking old bank statements and sorting through old emails.

It’s clear that for even a moderate transaction volume, the above electronic payment options may not give you a useful “paper trail”.

And what about updating the actual books? Well, you need to manually mark each bill as paid on the proper date. There is definitely an administrative burden.

Is there still a better way?

When it comes to these payment options, like most things in life, there are pros and cons. It can be tricky to manage multiple payment options while managing your small business as well, nevermind the challenges in receiving payments from your clients!

In my next article, I will review two payment systems available in Canada and that I’ve used, Plooto and RBC PayEdge (formerly WayPay), which attempt to address some of the challenges with electronic payments.

About the author

I am a Chartered Professional Accountant working somewhere in Canada. I provide controllership, training, and consulting services to small and medium sized businesses. I also work with non-profit organizations. I write only about my experiences in the business world and I am not selling or advertising any company or service, including my own. Audrey Silva is my pen name.

Savers Roundup January 2021: TFSA and RRSP season in a low-rate environment

New year budgeting

What a difference a year makes for rates

Last January, we were talking about a 3.30% savings account at LBC Digital, and every financial institution on our savings account comparison chart had an interest rate of at least 2.00%, with the exception of Canadian Tire Bank. Today, Canadian Tire Bank leads our chart with a savings account interest rate of 1.80%, and most other rates are closer to 1.00%. Just last month, there were more rate decreases at LBC Digital and MAXA Financial, and Hubert Financial even decreased its rate twice in 7 days.

12 months ago, 5-year GIC rates were nearing 3.00%, and there was even a 1-year GIC promo at 3.00%. Today, we don’t even have a 5-year GIC at 2.00%. Although, you might not feel the impact of fluctuating rates as much if you’ve set up a GIC ladder.

But there is hope around rates, and not just for those who are in the market for a mortgage!

EQ Bank’s recently launched TFSA (and RRSP) offers the best rate around at 2.30%. They are also offering that rate for a TFSA or RRSP 3-month GIC. Even if you’re skeptical of how long the rate will last at 2.30%, EQ Bank doesn’t yet have any transfer-out fees.

Tangerine Bank continues to play the promo game, with January’s targeted new deposit promo offering 1.75% until May 31, 2021. Our promotions page features some other usual suspects such as Simplii Financial and CIBC, as well as a 1% transfer-in bonus from Meridian Credit Union for TFSA and RRSP funds.

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