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Flaky "Edit" button
June 17, 2020
5:53 am
Norman1
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Is there some issue with the "Edit" button?

The button seems to be flaky and doesn't always show for of my posts. For example, this post, that's about 8 hours old, has no Edit button. The system does recognize that I'm the author as it has no "PM" button.

In contrast, this post is okay and has an "Edit" button.

June 17, 2020
7:19 am
Peter
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The "Edit" button is only available for 1 hour after you have posted. The reason for this is that some people were using it to materially change their posts after much follow-up discussion had already occurred.

If you'd like to make any edits after the 1-hour period, feel free to use the "Report" button to send a message to the moderators.

June 17, 2020
7:23 am
Nehpets
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Peter,

If I am not mistaken, our ability to edit our own post ends when a reply is posted, is that correct?

Stephen

June 17, 2020
7:44 am
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The 1-hour period makes sense. But, the Edit button is still not behaving as intended.

For example, this June 6 post is now over a week old and has subsequent posts. For some reason, it has an Edit button!

The behavior seems to be semi-random.

June 17, 2020
10:19 am
Dean
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Norman1 said

The 1-hour period makes sense. But, the Edit button is still not behaving as intended.

For example, this June 6 post is now over a week old and has subsequent posts. For some reason, it has an Edit button!

The behavior seems to be semi-random.  

I've noticed this too. But to describe it, I use the term; "Erratic". sf-smile

Who knows ... maybe it's a software glitch ❓

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June 17, 2020
2:27 pm
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I've noticed these inconsistencies too and didn't know what was going on.
I don't know when the one-hour rule was instituted but I have noticed it is very short, and I find it a pain. I often do edits to improve the spelling or grammar or to communicate better after the fact when I re-read what I wrote, and don't always have time to do that immediately. And sometimes I add something extra. Now, I have to make a new post to add something, which disrupts the flow, so I often don't bother.
My efforts to improve my posts seem increasingly thwarted.
And yes to Stephen's observation. I've noticed this too. Sometimes it reduces your editing time to zero.
It makes more work for the moderator as I am getting a lot more notifications of changes to my posts, which seem to have to do with spelling or grammar as I've not noticed any changes in content.

June 18, 2020
12:23 pm
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I believe 1 hour rule if fair enough, even generous. That time limit stops initial note modification in case of not favorable follow up reply/comment (I did not say that, no, me? never, look at my note, etc.).
I write notes in Word, save, let it sit on disk a while, correct wording if needed, add/delete parts and then post. This way I do not depend on internet or time-out or whatever. Imagine you have an inspiration, start writing really good reply with a lot of useful facts and advises and for any reason get interrupted and all your (potential) good work is gone.

June 18, 2020
12:53 pm
Dean
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10-4 Pooreva sf-smile

Unless my posts are short, I usually do my composing & editing offline, like you. And then Copy & Paste onto the forum, when I'm sure it's right.

There's an Old Cowboy Saying about this . . .


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June 18, 2020
9:53 pm
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Loonie said

…And yes to Stephen's observation. I"ve noticed this too. Sometimes it reduces your editing time to zero.

That just happened to me! No Edit button after less than five minutes!

June 18, 2020
10:01 pm
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pooreva said
I believe 1 hour rule if fair enough, even generous. That time limit stops initial note modification in case of not favorable follow up reply/comment (I did not say that, no, me? never, look at my note, etc.).
I write notes in Word, save, let it sit on disk a while, correct wording if needed, add/delete parts and then post. This way I do not depend on internet or time-out or whatever. Imagine you have an inspiration, start writing really good reply with a lot of useful facts and advises and for any reason get interrupted and all your (potential) good work is gone.  

Whatever works for you, you should do.

If I had to go through such a procedure, it would never happen. I would not post anything. This is not out of spite. I just find it too cumbersome and wouldn't get around to concluding the process.

June 19, 2020
8:16 am
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Norman1 said

Loonie said

…And yes to Stephen's observation. I"ve noticed this too. Sometimes it reduces your editing time to zero.

That just happened to me! No Edit button after less than five minutes!  

Yup ... it's been happening to a few of us lately ... including me.

I'm guessing it's some sort of a software glitch.

Maybe Peter can explain.

Cheerio,

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June 19, 2020
9:20 pm
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Is it possible that the "Edit" button you are seeing was an "Edit" icon, showing that the post was edited, rather than the button that has the word "Edit"? I've hidden the icon now.

If it's been less than 1 hour since you made a post and you don't see the button with the word "Edit" on it, please note it here and perhaps we'll be able to debug it within the necessary time.

June 19, 2020
9:34 pm
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Just happened again now, Peter!

This post is about 12 minutes old and is missing the "Edit" button.

June 19, 2020
9:35 pm
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The previous post, #13, in this discussion is also missing an "Edit" button after less than 2 minutes.

June 19, 2020
10:44 pm
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Thanks! This looks like an issue with how the forum software handles timezones. I've patched it now, so please provide any further examples here.

June 20, 2020
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Dean said
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10-4 Pooreva sf-smile

Unless my posts are short, I usually do my composing & editing offline, like you. And then Copy & Paste onto the forum, when I'm sure it's right.

There's an Old Cowboy Saying about this . . .


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Happy Trails sf-wink

    Dean

  

Haven't had any issues with the edit button. (I edited this in after I posted). If I pre-compose in Word, by the time I finally post, the subjects usually moved on.
This is always a good philosophy I try to follow before hitting the "Post" button

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edited for a "G" audience sf-wink

June 20, 2020
6:08 am
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Easy peasy, I'd just delete the Edit button, and better to keep people responsible for what they sending before they push Submit Reply, keeps people sharp which is good. If you don't have the time or aren't ready, don't post, the world will survive without your post. Just like talking - you said it, can't take it back. That's my (edited) view.

June 20, 2020
1:28 pm
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We live in an age of impatience and short attention spans. Most people are not likely to delay posts for some future editing.
Eliminating the edit function would be counter-productive. It would mean more unintelligible posts, more work for Peter in editing them, some people would quit the forum, and there would be less traffic and thus it would be a poorer investment for Peter and his time.

June 21, 2020
10:47 am
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Peter edits our posts? Not so sure about that information.

The more I think about it the better I think getting rid of Edit would be. Lots more posts, traffic, as people would be retracting, amending, explaining, etc, plus overall way more "lively" site, so engagement & traffic would increase. No-one would quit this site just because Edit is removed. I know it won't happen, but I can see it would be positive, all depends on your perspective.

June 21, 2020
12:50 pm
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Bill said
Peter edits our posts? Not so sure about that information.

The more I think about it the better I think getting rid of Edit would be. Lots more posts, traffic, as people would be retracting, amending, explaining, etc, plus overall way more "lively" site, so engagement & traffic would increase. No-one would quit this site just because Edit is removed. I know it won't happen, but I can see it would be positive, all depends on your perspective.  

Peter edits my posts all the time, I think it's when I put a reference to a RFD post which he then removes.

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