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Upgrade to Windows 11 ?
November 8, 2021
11:09 am
Dean
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Microsoft is offering me a free Windows 10 up-grade, to the new Windows 11. I'm guessing all legitimate Windows 10 owner/users are being given this offer.

Some questions . . .

    - Anyone here followed through with this, and upgraded to Windows 11 ?
    - Much of a change in functionality/appearance/etc. in Windows 11 ?
    - Is it worth it, to bother making this change ?

I realize that 'eventually', we'll have no choice. As with previous versions of Windows, 3 or 4 years from now Microsoft will stop servicing Windows 10.

For me, Windows 10 Ain't Broke sf-wink ... and it works just fine for me. I'm inclined to keep using Windows 10, for the time being.

Thoughts ❓

    Dean

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November 8, 2021
12:19 pm
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Dean said
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Microsoft is offering me a free Windows 10 up-grade, to the new Windows 11. I'm guessing all legitimate Windows 10 owner/users are being given this offer.

Some questions . . .

    - Anyone here followed through with this, and upgraded to Windows 11 ?
    - Much of a change in functionality/appearance/etc. in Windows 11 ?
    - Is it worth it, to bother making this change ?

I realize that 'eventually', we'll have no choice. As with previous versions of Windows, 3 or 4 years from now Microsoft will stop servicing Windows 10.

For me, Windows 10 Ain't Broke sf-wink ... and it works just fine for me. I'm inclined to keep using Windows 10, for the time being.

Thoughts ❓

    Dean

  

Luckily, my computers aren't compatible with Windows 11, so my decision is easy;

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/windows-11-compatibility-check-if-your-pc-meets-microsofts-requirements/

I say "luckily", because from what I have read, this could be another "bomb" like Vista or ME. MS has a history of every 2nd new system name being not great. What I've read, some examples in these links, tells me there's nothing improved that I care about, and lots to avoid. MS has actively supported systems for 10 years in the past, lets hope its that long for Windows 10.

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/why-im-not-excited-about-windows-11

https://www.pcworld.com/article/539183/windows-11-review-an-unnecessary-replacement-for-windows-10.html

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-11-vs-windows-10/

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November 8, 2021
12:30 pm
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I upgraded mine 2 weeks ago. Upgrade is very fast and less than 30mins including downloading the 5gb file. Keep in mind my desktop is 10th gen i5, 16g ram and SSD, so if u r still on a older CPU and a HDD, your upgrade time can be significantly longer.
All apps including wireless printer, kybd, bluetooth and the usual works seamlessly. I do have a little bug that others have reported on Reddit and no apparent fix yet.
From time to time, my screen will black out for a sec and then comes back again. It only happens after win11 upgrade and def not a loose cable etc. I am tech saavy and confident its the same little gremlins Reddit reported (its random and I cant replicate it.) It does not freeze up or anything, just a 1 sec screen black out and back on.
Overall I will suggest anyone that isnt 100% comfortable/ tech savvy enuf should wait before upgrading. I dont see any VOW features that win11 offers and 10 does not.
It looks a little nicer, thats the main diff to me based on my usage.

November 8, 2021
12:40 pm
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Thanks for all that info & links in Posts #2 & #3 ... Well Done ❗

Fortunately, is seems that for those of us who don't want to upgrade to Windows 11 just yet, we don't have anything to about, for now. Windows 10 support won't be retired until Oct. 14, 2025.

Cheers,

    Dean

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November 8, 2021
12:51 pm
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Dean said
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Microsoft is offering me a free Windows 10 up-grade, to the new Windows 11. I'm guessing all legitimate Windows 10 owner/users are being given this offer.

No, not all legitimate Windows 10 users will get an upgrade offer, it is lucky you. I am typing this on desktop computer with Microsoft Vista sticker on it, bought in 2007. It now runs Windows 10. My desktop will not be getting Windows 11, Microsoft decided for new OS not to support my desktop hardware that runs Windows 10 perfectly fine.

Only small number of Windows users will be getting Windows 11 upgrade: those with recent hardware.
If you want to check if your computer will get it, open Settings/Update & Security/Windows Update and you will see.

I am going to stay with Windows 10, but eventually will be buying new desktop. This will happen when Microsoft stops providing updates to Windows 10 and one day I won't be able to login to my bank Web site because version of Microsoft Edge browser I run on Windows 10 is no longer supported (and no new one is coming for Win 10 from Microsoft).

For those offered an upgrade and undecided: after Windows 11 upgrade you will have about 10 days to rollback. Google "roll back to windows 10 from windows 11."

November 8, 2021
1:01 pm
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Alexandre said

. . . I am going to stay with Windows 10, but eventually will be buying new desktop. . . .

  

No worries, Alexandre ... you have LOTS of time to buy that new desktop.

See Post #4 .

    Dean

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November 8, 2021
2:16 pm
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Dean said
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Thanks for all that info & links in Posts #2 & #3 ... Well Done ❗

Fortunately, is seems that for those of us who don't want to upgrade to Windows 11 just yet, we don't have anything to about, for now. Windows 10 support won't be retired until Oct. 14, 2025.

Cheers,

    Dean

  

That's going to cause a lot of complaints, because its only 4 years away, and Windows 11 introduces new hardware requirements not met by computers 3 or 4 years old, and beyond. Which is most computers.

This timeline is complicated by the chip shortage/exorbitant costs. For example, any mid range video card is either not available (all this year), and/or costs more than twice as much as last year! sf-frown

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November 8, 2021
2:24 pm
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SMSO.

Video card nvidia. I had the flicker issue. Screen goes black for a second and the gpu fans ramp up to full speed.

The fix i used. Grab an older driver from the nvidia web site.

Others suggested this fix. Nvidia control panel. display, adjust desktop colour settings (Near the central bottom of screen) content type reported to the display... select "desktop programs" (NOT the default AUTO- SELECT).

Added note. I was having a realtek issue. Their latest driver added about 30 seconds to my boot time. I did the windows 11 update and it fixed this issue.

November 8, 2021
2:58 pm
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My hardware is not 'compatible' with Win11 so I do not care. Nor I am going to invest in new PC soon (if ever).
Still running win 7 on one of my laptops with no issues. Do not care for MS 'security' patches or their 'end of life' threats.

November 8, 2021
3:45 pm
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pooreva said

My hardware is not 'compatible' with Win11 so I do not care. Nor I am going to invest in new PC soon (if ever).
Still running win 7 on one of my laptops with no issues. Do not care for MS 'security' patches or their 'end of life' threats.  

No offence meant, but that's like playing 'Russian Roulette' ... eventually, the hammer 'Will' find the loaded chamber ❗

Think Again,

    Dean

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November 8, 2021
5:31 pm
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For me, it is less of security issues with older Windows, I can handle that. What will force me to upgrade to Windows 11 is apps I run on my desktop.

For example, for many years I use TurboTax to file taxes. It no longer runs on Win 7. One day I am going to find it no longer runs on Windows 10. That would be the day I'll be looking for new desktop.

Different Microsoft apps, or browser - same story. TD Bank web site states it is only compatible with two most recent versions of Edge browser. When I can't login to my TD account from my desktop, I'll go look for a new desktop.

I am fine with that: PC hardware is cheap these days and my desktop will be 20 years old when time comes to replace it. 20 years is an eternity in IT.

Still, I remember Microsoft releasing Windows 10 with promise it'll be the last major Windows upgrade we will ever need, the rest will be incremental updates. I didn't believe it then, but still disappointed it is no longer true.

November 8, 2021
5:33 pm
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My hardware is too old to qualify, but it's still perfectly usable. i5 3570k with 32GB RAM and SSD. Wow, it's 3rd generation. Windows 11 wants 8th gen or newer.

November 8, 2021
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My hardware is too old to qualify, but it's still perfectly usable. i5 3570k with 32GB RAM and SSD. Wow, it's 3rd generation. Windows 11 wants 8th gen or newer.  

Before I replaced my desktop few months ago, my old rig is same as yours but 12gb ram only haha. It runs Windows 10 fine and my suggestions is you just keep using ur current setup and Win10. SSD and ram is what makes a CPU runs smoothly anyway, CPU only matters when one does some hard core multitasking or video editing, neither is my specialty.

And if you do want to upgrade to something more current, there are still a good amount of 10-gen and 11-gen desktop selling for cheap, these are the ones where people strip out the video card as thats the only way they can source it. I paid $550 for a brand new Dell 10th gen i5, 16gig ram, 512 SSD and 1TB HDD. It was a $1000 desktop with a nvidia GPU and the seller stripped out.

November 8, 2021
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implode said
My hardware is too old to qualify, but it's still perfectly usable. i5 3570k with 32GB RAM and SSD. Wow, it's 3rd generation. Windows 11 wants 8th gen or newer.  

You can still do so unofficially.

November 8, 2021
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If you use AMD Ryzen CPU, do not upgrade to window 11 at the moment, as there are measurable impact to performance.

November 9, 2021
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I do have an installation of windows 10 I keep only to update my gps. My goto operating systems are linux based.
I have no intentions of updating to 11.

November 9, 2021
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mmlt said
My goto operating systems are linux based.
 

A couple of my friends can't be bothered with this Windows stuff. They go straight to Linux.

November 9, 2021
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I always encourage people to try linux. Run up a liveDVD for a test drive. It opens up a whole new world and it's not just for geeks. distrowatch.com.

November 9, 2021
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I always encourage people to try linux. Run up a liveDVD for a test drive. It opens up a whole new world and it's not just for geeks. distrowatch.com.  

If you or if you know someone who is tech savvy, you can partition the drive and install Linux so you have both Windows and Linux on the same computer.

P.S. I know it is doable but I don't know how to actually do it.

November 10, 2021
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It's very easy to dual-boot Windows and Ubuntu. The installation has options for it. Read ahead before attempting, and check for hardware installation. I'd also do an image backup to restore Windows if you aren't happy with the result. Or swap for a new drive before attempting the install.
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