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CDIC protection for WS Cash accounts increased to 500K
April 15, 2024
11:37 pm
Loonie
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So, do we know if WS discloses the beneficiaries of its trust accounts to CDIC or to the banks in question? If they do, how could we be sure and why can't they tell us too?

If RBC or whichever bank only has to insure 100,000 out of a billion, there will be an increased profit margin for them.

April 16, 2024
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- They won’t tell us because its none of our business (and most of us don’t care). The auditors will know.
- RBC or whichever bank has to insure the exact same amount. Assuming WS clients keep cash balance under $500K, hypothetical “RBC” has to insure 100% of it under CDIC.

April 16, 2024
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The formal trusts I'm involved with regularly are asked to update the list of disclosed beneficiaries by the institutions where the trusts have accounts, exactly for the purpose of CDIC coverage per beneficiary. (I usually ignore the requests as CDIC coverage is not an issue with those trusts.)

April 16, 2024
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It is not part of the account agreement. But, Wealthsimple says the necessary beneficiary information is disclosed to the banks in their response to a question in Understand how CDIC coverage works in your Cash account:

How are my funds split between the partner banks that you are using?

The funds are split to maximize your eligible CDIC coverage.

Note: We work with several tier-1, CDIC-member, regulated Canadian financial institutions to hold your deposits in trust. CDIC’s coverage limit applies separately to each deposit category at each member institution, so even if you bank with our bank partners, you’ll have CDIC coverage in both places. We provide our banking partners with the relevant reporting information concerning beneficiaries in line with our CDIC reporting obligations. Beneficiary information is based on account holder information so please make sure your information is up to date. You can learn more about how CDIC coverage works on their website.

Wealthsimple also says that there would be no overlap with the CDIC coverage of accounts a Wealthsimple Cash Account holder may directly have with the same banks. That's consistent with those trust accounts being in Wealthsimple Payments Inc.'s name and not in the name of any of the Wealthsimple Cash Account holders.

No way for Wealthsimple Cash Account holders to verify on their own. Even if the bank were known, a disclosed beneficiary of a bank account is not entitled to info about the bank account from the bank. The beneficiary needs to go through the trustee who is the bank account's holder.

April 16, 2024
7:56 am
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WS should be well positioned to rip the benefits of Open Banking… I assume.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-what-is-open-banking-canada/

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