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Final T1 Format
April 21, 2025
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I’m using StudioTax to prepare a Final T1 for someone who passed away late 2024 and am confused about the format of the printed return which gets mailed to CRA (“for the government”). I thought it would be the entire 25 pages (“for your records”), but it is a condensed return of only 5 pages. StudioTax explicitly states that the long version is not acceptable to the CRA.

StudioTax knows that this is a final return as it asks me to confirm that the individual is deceased. Furthermore, it is ambiguous about whether the 2D bar codes should be included as StudioTax warns that 2D codes are not to be used if “taxpayer died prior to the current tax year”, but does not specify “current” as being 2024 or 2025.

Has anyone mailed a Final T1 and if so, was it the entire return or just the condensed version. If it was condensed, were 2D bar codes included? Thanks.

April 21, 2025
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Why did not you use GenuTax Standard for Windows to file the Tax Return, it is completely free to submit electronics online.

April 21, 2025
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usephrase said
Why did not you use GenuTax Standard for Windows to file the Tax Return, it is completely free to submit electronics online.  

@GMH used Studio Tax. His/her choice. Depends on who files the last return. It’s unlikely that GMH is eligible to NetFile a deceased last tax return.

April 21, 2025
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GMH said
I’m using StudioTax to prepare a Final T1 for someone who passed away late 2024 and am confused about the format of the printed return which gets mailed to CRA (“for the government”). I thought it would be the entire 25 pages (“for your records”), but it is a condensed return of only 5 pages. StudioTax explicitly states that the long version is not acceptable to the CRA.

StudioTax knows that this is a final return as it asks me to confirm that the individual is deceased. Furthermore, it is ambiguous about whether the 2D bar codes should be included as StudioTax warns that 2D codes are not to be used if “taxpayer died prior to the current tax year”, but does not specify “current” as being 2024 or 2025.

Has anyone mailed a Final T1 and if so, was it the entire return or just the condensed version. If it was condensed, were 2D bar codes included? Thanks.  

Yes, I mailed my mother’s in. My mother in laws was efiled as it was done by an approved accountant.

Use the Government copy to mail. I suggest that you send it registered and then get proof of delivery. The deceased CRA account will be locked out. In this case you cannot NetFile the deceased last T1.

For your records I suggest you store and print both sets of records.

If you have any questions about income earned after death and income in the next year, to be reported via a T3 Trust Account. I have experienced it. Along with B.C. Probate.

April 21, 2025
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usephrase said
Why did not you use GenuTax Standard for Windows to file the Tax Return, it is completely free to submit electronics online.  

No individual can Netfile a Final T1 return, i.e. they must be mailed. Only an accounting firm can Efile a Final T1 return.

P.S. to GMH: It is just the Condensed version that gets filed. That is all I remember from the time I did a Final T1 about 10 years ago.

April 21, 2025
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The deceased CRA account will be locked out but if you are an executor, or legal representative of the deceased, you can access the deceased's CRA Account after CRA takes weeks to give you the permission of " Represent a Client". Then in your CRA online account, click "Represent a Client" to access the the deceased's CRA Account.

https://turbotax.intuit.ca/tips/netfile-is-open-learn-how-to-use-netfile-for-your-2022-tax-return-14477
You cannot NETFILE if:
The CRA doesn’t have your date of birth or Social Insurance Number on file.
You went bankrupt in the past 2 years.
You are a deemed resident and don’t have to pay provincial taxes.
You are filing for a deceased person who died in the tax year or the prior year.
You are an emigrant or non-resident.
Your address is outside Canada.
You have a Canadian-source income from Lloyds of London.

April 21, 2025
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usephrase said
The deceased CRA account will be locked out but if you are an executor, or legal representative of the deceased, you can access the deceased's CRA Account after CRA takes weeks to give you the permission of " Represent a Client". Then in your CRA online account, click "Represent a Client" to access the the deceased's CRA Account.

What’s there to see if you have access. Pointless. Just get a Clearance Certificate.

April 21, 2025
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FWIW, I never did see a need to access a deceased's CRA account BUT that might be wise for an Executor to do so IF the Executor thinks the deceased's tax records might be a mess, e.g. balances owing, prior returns not filed, etc.

That all said, obtaining a Clearance Certificate is the key piece for an Executor to clear him/herself of any potential liabilities. It is basically saying any potential tax obligations of the deceased have been put to bed.

April 21, 2025
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usephrase said
The deceased CRA account will be locked out but if you are an executor, or legal representative of the deceased, you can access the deceased's CRA Account after CRA takes weeks to give you the permission of " Represent a Client". Then in your CRA online account, click "Represent a Client" to access the the deceased's CRA Account.

What’s there to see if you have access. Pointless. Just get a Clearance Certificate.  

I am sure you will see everything of the Deceased, all information including Assessments in previous years. Just like that you access your own CRA account.

April 21, 2025
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AltaRed said
FWIW, I never did see a need to access a deceased's CRA account BUT that might be wise for an Executor to do so IF the Executor thinks the deceased's tax records might be a mess, e.g. balances owing, prior returns not filed, etc.

That all said, obtaining a Clearance Certificate is the key piece for an Executor to clear him/herself of any potential liabilities. It is basically saying any potential tax obligations of the deceased have been put to bed.  

Was thinking of getting a Clearance Certificate, but the CRA wording seems to imply that it only absolves the Executor of liability. If the CRA reassesses at a future date, all beneficiaries are still liable (i.e. CRA doesn't "close the books" after Clearance Certificate is issued).

April 21, 2025
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@GMH

CRA website says, Certificated Tax Software do not support to file tax return for the deceased.

How did you use StudioTax to prepare a Final T1 ? Or You just filed a final T1 Income Tax, not optional T3 return or something else special.

April 21, 2025
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T3 is required after final T1 “if” there is more income to declare.

You need a T1 clearance certificate.

And a T3 clearance certificate.

If you chose to do so.

There are 2 kinds if trust accounts that you can choose from. The 3 year trust can save the estate some money.

April 21, 2025
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There are 2 kinds if trust accounts that you can choose from. The 3 year trust can save the estate some money.  

Otherwise known as a GRE (Graduated Rate Estate). Lots of materials on the net to provide tips and guidance.

April 21, 2025
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usephrase said
@GMH

CRA website says, Certificated Tax Software do not support to file tax return for the deceased.

How did you use StudioTax to prepare a Final T1 ? Or You just filed a final T1 Income Tax, not optional T3 return or something else special.  

AFAIK you can use any tax software to prepare a Final T1, you're just not allowed to NETFILE. You must print out the return and mail it.

April 21, 2025
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@AltaRed,

Do I need T1 clearance certificate and a T3 clearance certificate from CRA ? Why will I need and how to get T1/T3 clearance certificate?

a)
Refund or balance owing in the Final 2024 Tax Return T1 is $0.00.
b)
No income to declare in T3.
c)
No more debt balances.
CRA required to return Canada Carbon Rebate, Provincial trillium benefit and GST/HST payments for the time after death. I already returned the payments CRA requested.

April 21, 2025
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Whether you seek a Clearance Certificate or not depends on your confidence that everything with CRA is squared away and NOAs have been received. https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/life-events/doing-taxes-someone-died/clearance-certificate.html

I never did apply for a Clearance Certificate for the Final T1 and T3 that I did for the simple reason I had been doing this person's tax returns for years already. I knew there was nothing outstanding once I had the NOAs.

April 21, 2025
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Thanks, AltaRed,

I am sure there was nothing outstanding with CRA. All previous Tax Returns and the Final 2024 T1, all Refund or balance owing were/will be $0.00 .

But nothing wrong I will request T1 and T3 Clearance Certificate later on.

April 21, 2025
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The Notice of Assessment is just a first look and not really final. CRA has at least three years to do a reassessment.

CRA doesn't take a more thorough review until later:

What to do if your tax return is reviewed or audited

What types of tax reviews are there?
A tax review is not the same as a tax audit. But it may lead to an audit if the CRA is not satisfied with your response to the review.

There are a few different kinds of tax reviews:

  • Pre-assessment review – Takes place before a notice of assessment is issued. After you submit your tax return, the CRA may review the deductions and credits you claimed. These reviews usually take place between February and July.
  • Processing review program – Similar to the pre-assessment review, except for timing. The CRA conducts these reviews after it sends you a notice of assessment, usually between June and November.
  • Matching program – Takes place after the CRA sends you a notice of assessment, usually between September and March. The CRA compares information on your tax return with information provided by third parties like your employer, banks or investment firms.

April 21, 2025
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CRA will catch it if one forgets to claim $1.00 income. sf-coolsf-coolsf-coolsf-coolsf-coolsf-cool

April 22, 2025
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Where and who will sign on the Final T1 ?

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