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December 30, 2020
10:02 am
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Thanks, LX66NE, all good to know. So what do people do with all that info on their old phone when they get a new one, wouldn't they just transfer it over so it would be gone from the old one?

pooreva, when I give Rogers $100 (from which they take $5/month for my text plan) they give me 365 days before they want more money, so I'm good until May 2021. That's why Rogers works for me.

Based on what Winnie said I'm good with my Nokia 6080 until Dec 31, 2021 so I've got some time to scrounge up/"repurpose" somebody's cast-off newer phone.

December 30, 2020
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Bill said
Thanks, LX66NE, all good to know. So what do people do with all that info on their old phone when they get a new one, wouldn't they just transfer it over so it would be gone from the old one?
  

My best knowledge is of iPhones. You can back up a phone and restore to a new one BUT sometimes you cannot if the phones are on a different iOS. It might because APPS have different versions based on the iOS...not sure. You can also put one iPhone beside another and the old phone will sync to the new one. And if those options don’t work a lot of stuff, but not all, will move/sync based on the iCloud settings. Worst case scenario is you may have to reinstall some apps and work on setting up emails on the Apple email client.

I assume an old phone is recyclable.

January 4, 2021
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Just about all smartphones are flat and do not fold. Thus:
A: your mouth and ear can't both be close to where they have to be, and nobody can understand you or be understood by you.
B: The screens break because they're unprotected and there's no lanyard attachment point so they get dropped a lot. Also because you have to hold them by the edges. (Yes, you can pay extra for a case) Most smartphones don't have an attachment point for a lanyard; most flip phones do. It's often unannounced but visible once the back is open. (Yes, you can buy a stick-on attachment point or finger ring)
C: You can butt-dial expensively or annoyingly. (Yes, you can pay extra for a case - but the code thing makes using the phone a pain, and delays calls and pickups)
D: They use well-known operating systems and are prime victims for hacking.
(But you don't HAVE to put your banking or payment info into them.)
E: There are no real buttons! And the screens collect finger and face grease. (ugh)

Transferring data to a new phone is iffy. Some carriers offer to do it for you, some shops will do it for a fee, but it isn't guaranteed to work. Even transferring from my old Alcatel A392C to my new A392, a lot of the phone book got mangled. I laboriously used bluetooth V-card transfer to finish the job but still had to go through 350 numbers to check them. If I wasn't so obsessive I'd have been daunted.

Oddly, Alcatel describe the A392 series as "Smartphones" because they have some data capability and a crippled-protocol sort-of-browser, and they can send via data if you have such a plan, but they will only work with a few special web sites (and may not work with HTTPS: at all) and can't use apps.
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January 4, 2021
5:27 am
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RetirEd said
Just about all smartphones are flat and do not fold. Thus:
A: your mouth and ear can't both be close to where they have to be, and nobody can understand you or be understood by you.
B: The screens break because they're unprotected and there's no lanyard attachment point so they get dropped a lot. Also because you have to hold them by the edges. (Yes, you can pay extra for a case) Most smartphones don't have an attachment point for a lanyard; most flip phones do. It's often unannounced but visible once the back is open. (Yes, you can buy a stick-on attachment point or finger ring)
C: You can butt-dial expensively or annoyingly. (Yes, you can pay extra for a case - but the code thing makes using the phone a pain, and delays calls and pickups)
D: They use well-known operating systems and are prime victims for hacking.
(But you don't HAVE to put your banking or payment info into them.)
E: There are no real buttons! And the screens collect finger and face grease. (ugh)

Transferring data to a new phone is iffy. Some carriers offer to do it for you, some shops will do it for a fee, but it isn't guaranteed to work. Even transferring from my old Alcatel A392C to my new A392, a lot of the phone book got mangled. I laboriously used bluetooth V-card transfer to finish the job but still had to go through 350 numbers to check them. If I wasn't so obsessive I'd have been daunted.

Oddly, Alcatel describe the A392 series as "Smartphones" because they have some data capability and a crippled-protocol sort-of-browser, and they can send via data if you have such a plan, but they will only work with a few special web sites (and may not work with HTTPS: at all) and can't use apps.
RetirEd  

Maybe you should have a more open mind re new technology.

A lot of the ‘con’ you mentioned are not issues for 99.999% of the population, so you should be fine too. Just remember technology will keep moving forward with or without you !

Just like some are trashing self drive cars and EVs right now, I am quite confident that will be the main stream over the next 20 years. I am already looking forward for autonomous cars so I can still go places when I am deemed too old to drive !

January 4, 2021
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I completely agree with RetirEd (A,B,C,D,E).

savemoresaveoften said
Maybe you should have a more open mind re new technology. 

If you like new technology, it's your choice.
I personally don't like many things, but I do respect people, who disagree with me. Everyone life and likes/dislikes are different.

January 4, 2021
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Winnie said
I completely agree with RetirEd (A,B,C,D,E).

savemoresaveoften said
Maybe you should have a more open mind re new technology. 

If you like new technology, it's your choice.
I personally don't like many things, but I do respect people, who disagree with me. Everyone life and likes/dislikes are different.  

A) with the advance in mic technology, the mic does NOT need to be next to your mouth. My google home can hear me from across the room 15' away at normal conversation level
B) yes with the all glass screen and size, it is easier to break when sit on or drop, cant deny that truth
C) the screen locked itself after preset inactivity, so butt dial is not an issue.
D) true too but most likely ur financial info got hacked cuz ur home computer is hacked and not ur phone
E) if a real buttons are important, RIM would still be making phones and have enough buyers to make it financially viable

Some changes are good, some needs time to get used to. I choose the path to try to focus on the positives and instead of finding the faults. It is a free country after all and we are not forced to use one technology over the other !

January 4, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said

A) with the advance in mic technology, the mic does NOT need to be next to your mouth. My google home can hear me from across the room 15' away at normal conversation level 

Good for you! Thus Google can hear ALL your private conversation. Say hello To Big Brother next time...

January 4, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said
Some changes are good, some needs time to get used to.

Also, some changes are bad, and some are very bad!

You just see all changes as "good and needs time to get used to".

January 4, 2021
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pooreva said

savemoresaveoften said

A) with the advance in mic technology, the mic does NOT need to be next to your mouth. My google home can hear me from across the room 15' away at normal conversation level 

Good for you! Thus Google can hear ALL your private conversation. Say hello To Big Brother next time...  

I am just a small potato not a big shot like you. So Google knowing what I am going to eat tonite or what I am going to watch is totally fine with me.

January 4, 2021
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Winnie said

savemoresaveoften said
Some changes are good, some needs time to get used to.

Also, some changes are bad, and some are very bad!

You just see all changes as "good and needs time to get used to".  

If you believe in free world and good capitalism, then any changes esp technology that are truly bad or very bad will cease to exist. I will certainly eat the humble pie when I see all touch screen smart phones are being replaced by real button flip phones cuz the old format is way better. Are you willing to do the same ? Until then, just choose whatever you prefer, certainly not my business.

January 4, 2021
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Also, some changes are bad, and some are very bad!

You just see all changes as "good and needs time to get used to".  

Changes be they be good or bad. Some we have to accept. And as said some we get used to. Changes are often not immediately accepted...and some never. Others we can choose to use or accept or not accept. Some will be floundering followers to keep up with the Jones’s. Some are smart. It is your personal choice of what technology or devices you choose to use or not use. Ditto for social media and what you document in writing or in pictures it’s your life.....make it....share it....make a fool out of yourself...it can still be there after you are long gone. Choose wisely. Help your children to be wise too.

January 5, 2021
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I get to decide what I like and what I don't. I'm very tech-savvy, and don't like the direction phones are going. I only want a phone, not an internet/camera/shopping appliance, and I care about how it works as a phone. I'm not a social media junkie or kitten video zombie.

Like the way I don't like where financial institution customer agreements are going. They may all be trying to push us that way, but we don't have to agree. And often the regulators DO listen to resistance. Sometimes even the businesses agree.

Nobody has to agree with me. Just sharing.
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January 5, 2021
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Reading this thread reminded me of 2 tin cans, a string, and cash in a mattress.

January 6, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said

E) if a real buttons are important, RIM would still be making phones and have enough buyers to make it financially viable

Some changes are good, some needs time to get used to. I choose the path to try to focus on the positives and instead of finding the faults. It is a free country after all and we are not forced to use one technology over the other !  

Real Buttons are better. They were scrapped so as to make way for a bigger screen not because typing on a small flat piece of glass is better. Blackberry phones can still be used as a cheap alternative to a flip phone as they can be bought for about 30 dollars used and work with 3G+. Internet browsing not so much.
Free country ? If you wrote that a year ago I might have agreed with you.

January 7, 2021
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Oscar said
Real Buttons are better. They were scrapped so as to make way for a bigger screen not because typing on a small flat piece of glass is better. Blackberry phones can still be used as a cheap alternative to a flip phone as they can be bought for about 30 dollars used and work with 3G+. Internet browsing not so much.
Free country ? If you wrote that a year ago I might have agreed with you.  

Real buttons collects dust between the cracks, worse than a glass screen collecting finger prints which can be wiped off easily.
Cant resist to demonstrate how easy it is to just pick on something for the sake of it. 🙂
Yes, the whole purpose of touch screen is for a bigger display which I think is for the better, hope at least those who resist the change will agree. As I get older and my eyes not as sharp as it used to be, the bigger is better. Also newer phones allow to change the fonts to be bigger, even better. Of course if you use your phone as a phone and nothing else, buttons may be better I guess.

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