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Covid 19 by the numbers
April 4, 2020
6:59 am
Kidd
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I'm sure there are many Covid 19 data websites.  here are 2 that i follow daily.

https://www.covid-19canada.com/?fbclid=IwAR2I8Pp31KHy_u--5osSHEKpU33jaK_L609L0wgnxJwx_QeYxIUK1NX4Sjk

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

if you like numbers, here's stats canada's employment rate across our country.  March's numbers, when posted should be of interest.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1410028703

April 4, 2020
8:42 am
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Here is a link to StasCan annual mortality rates - in case you are not yet hiding in a closet

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310039201

April 5, 2020
6:18 am
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in 2019, ontario had a population of 14.6 million

our leader Doug Ford said on Friday that 15,000 people in Ontario will die of covid 19.  if like in Europe the death rate is 10% then 150,000 people in Ontario will catch it.  that means 1% of the population in Ontario will catch it.

we waited for some government mathematician to come up with these numbers?  how more rounded could these numbers be?

Doug should have spoken to the American Dental Association, 7 out of every 5 dentists recommend Crest toothpaste.

Italy death rate 12.3%
Spain death rate 9.5%
France death rate 8.4%
UK death rate 10.3%
Netherlands death rate 9.9%
Belgium death rate 7.3%

China death rate 4.1%.  hmm???

April 5, 2020
7:39 am
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Doug Ford did not say 15,000 people in Ontario will die of this. His experts gave him a range, with 15,000 as the highest, as far as I know. Tomorrow that number could go higher or lower, things change as this evolves. (By the way, that worst case would mean 1 out of every thousand Ontarians would die, most old and/or health compromised already, so the response has been to shut down the economy. Ok.)

I've heard not to put too much stock in comparing countries' rates, they have varying ways of coming up with those numbers and use various public health strategies. I believe the overall mortality rate, worldwide, sits between 3 - 4%, even 85% or so of those over 80 beat this thing.

April 5, 2020
8:02 am
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Kidd said
our leader Doug Ford said on Friday that 15,000 people in Ontario will die of covid 19. 
Doug should have spoken to the American Dental Association, 7 out of every 5 dentists recommend Crest toothpaste.

Italy death rate 12.3%
Spain death rate 9.5%
France death rate 8.4%
UK death rate 10.3%
Netherlands death rate 9.9%
Belgium death rate 7.3%
China death rate 4.1%.  hmm???  

I heard Doug Ford's presentation. He did NOT make a blank statement that 15,000 in Ontario would die of the virus. Please recheck your facts and perhaps correct your post.

April 5, 2020
8:13 am
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Their models project 100,000 deaths in Ontario without any shutdowns. That projected 3,000 to 15,000 deaths is with the current shutdowns.

There is a summary at Ontario.ca: Ontario Provides Full Transparency by Releasing COVID-19 Modelling.

The full slide set is available at the bottom of National Post (April 3, 2020): COVID-19 expected to kill 3,000 to 15,000 in Ontario, and 100,000 if we do nothing: public health.

April 5, 2020
8:41 am
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"Up to", "as much as", does not equal "will".

In Ontario 100,000 deaths would be just under 7 per 1000 people, again mostly old and/or sick. It would be possible to use social distancing, etc & selective shutdowns plus assist those over 65 or so with their isolation tactics, and that number could be brought down significantly, all the while keeping the economy going.

April 5, 2020
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Maybe others don't value their own life or the life of others like I do, but when I hear about a deadly and apparently highly contagious virus that does not yet have a cure or vaccine I don't think lightly of it. I personally would like to get over this pandemic without being infected. Just because somebody doesn't die from a disease doesn't mean they can't be sick enough that they cannot work. If shutting down the economy buys us time for a vaccine to be developed and reduces the toll on our health care system (which costs money to run, mind you) then perhaps it's the right thing to do. Of course, what is 'right' is subjective so maybe with some people we'll never agree on what's right. My suggestion is to consider that the economy relies on productive individuals who generally require a certain level of physical and mental health to function. Look beyond death rates.

April 5, 2020
12:38 pm
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someone once said, The living will envy the dead. i think it was Ringo Starr?

once the government starts taxing me for all of this, Ringo's words will ring true.

April 5, 2020
1:08 pm
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Cheren, I agree with you.

April 5, 2020
1:14 pm
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Kidd, don't worry, no more taxes, anybody taxes us and we just throw them out in favour of whoever gives us stuff instead. The beauty of democracy.

April 5, 2020
3:46 pm
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Kidd said
someone once said, The living will envy the dead. i think it was Ringo Starr?

once the government starts taxing me for all of this, Ringo's words will ring true.  

Sounds a little heavy for Ringo
Nikita Khrushchev, who once said that after a nuclear exchange, 'the living would envy the dead.
Might apply to a virus as well.

April 5, 2020
5:25 pm
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I'm sure it's just a coincidence but last October our self - appointed leaders held a live simulation of this and they actually named the virus by the same name. Now the world is under house arrest from the directive of unelected group . Bill Gates is making the rounds now and has a hard time keeping a straight face during these interviews. I have read that he has experience with virus problems back to Win95.
This is out in the open , here is a link to their website. See for yourself.

https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/10/live-simulation-exercise-to-prepare-public-and-private-leaders-for-pandemic-response/

http://www.centerforhealthsecu...../event201/

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