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TFSA is a good idea
November 5, 2023
9:26 am
hwyc
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Picking up from an old thread. It is a good idea!

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TFSA discussions here dated back to the beginning (2009). It has been an useful wealth-accumulation tool to me. Currently, size of my very own tax-free shelter has grown to ~$130K. That is ~$5,200 tax free income annually if fully utilized & earning, say at 4% 🙂

At my stage, RRSP/RRIF will continue to decrease whereas TFSA will continue to increase!

November 5, 2023
10:11 am
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Yup ... being invested to the Max in a TFSA is pretty much a no-brainer.

But I'm still surprised at the number of people who can, but don't.

    Dean

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November 5, 2023
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hwyc said
Currently, size of my very own tax-free shelter has grown to ~$130K. That is ~$5,200 tax free income annually if fully utilized & earning, say at 4% 🙂
 

This is very nice! How did you manage to accumulate 130K? Playing at stock market?

November 5, 2023
1:38 pm
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... start in 2009, contribute 100%, earn 4% by year-end. Repeat consistently. That's all. I only landed a little bit above that curve.

November 5, 2023
1:49 pm
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From https://www.planeasy.ca/the-new-tfsa-contribution-limit-how-big-could-your-tfsa-get-if-you-contribute-the-max-each-year/ if a person contributed the maximum each year since the start in 2009, and invested in a stock/bond ETF market index portfolio, at the end of 2023, one would have:
60/40 portfolio - $130k
80/20 portfolio - $139k
100/0 portfolio - $148k

I lost some ground by being invested only in a GIC ladder for the first several years until I woke up one day saying that since I had no need to tap into it at any time in the indefinite future, why was I not being more proactive? I switched to a 100% equity ETF thereafter as soon as the GICs started maturing, so I am now closer to $130k than I would have been to $148k if I had been 100% equity ETF from day one.

November 5, 2023
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Contribution limit for 2024 will be increased to $7K.
Not a big surprise, but good to know.

https://www.taxtips.ca/tfsa/tfsa-contribution-rules-and-limits.htm

November 5, 2023
3:24 pm
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Loonie said
Contribution limit for 2024 will be increased to $7K.
Not a big surprise, but good to know.

https://www.taxtips.ca/tfsa/tfsa-contribution-rules-and-limits.htm

WOW ... That's the first time they increased the max limit, Two years in a row ❗

I guess we can thank the recent inflation for that. sf-confused

Thanks for the heads-up, Loonie.

    Dean

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November 5, 2023
4:23 pm
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Any tax advantaged investment vehicle is usually a good idea, My savings goal is to max out my TFSA and RRSP after my needed expenses are paid, and whatever is left can be spent on wants.

I like this flowchart from WS on which tax vehicle to use:

November 5, 2023
5:09 pm
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Why stop if no emergency fund? Why can't TFSA be an emergency fund account? Did they mean to stop at WealthSimple?

November 5, 2023
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hwyc said
Why stop if no emergency fund? Why can't TFSA be an emergency fund account? Did they mean to stop at WealthSimple?  

The way the flowchart seems to be presented is an assumption the funds in a TFSA would be "invested" as compared to restricting assets to "liquid savings" available on very short notice. The flowchart does acknowledge TFSA assets could be used for "short term purchases" but it does not appear to assume the kind of liquidity an emergency fund would normally have.

IOW, why waste TFSA room with an HISA?

November 5, 2023
10:02 pm
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hwyc said
Why stop if no emergency fund? Why can't TFSA be an emergency fund account? Did they mean to stop at WealthSimple?  

Depends how often an emergency fund is used. If the emergency fund is in a TFSA and is used early in the year, those funds can't be replaced in the TFSA until the following year (assuming contributions are maxed out).

November 6, 2023
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In gneral TFSA should not be used as an emergency fund holder. Its best not to be touched until retirement so one earns compounded return over time. This is especially true for those who dont have enuf savings to allow contribution to both RRSP and TFSA regularly.

November 6, 2023
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savemoresaveoften said
In general TFSA should not be used as an emergency fund holder.  

That depends. If your savings do not exceed 100K it would make sense to park them all in TFSA and use in case of an emergency.

November 6, 2023
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Quite right. Emergency fund (3 month living cost) is a chunk in my TFSA portfolio where liquidity & stability matters. ( e.g. 4% Tax-free HISA w/CDIC )

I am trying to make a point in #9 by asking a question.

November 6, 2023
8:45 pm
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Short of the new FHSA, the simplest way to think about a TFSA vs RRSP is one of the last questions; Do you expect your personal income to be higher than the present? If so, invest in a TFSA, otherwise RRSP is better.

This includes strategies that may reduce your personal income in the future by legally moving assets and investments into separate entities not in your name, e.g. incorporations, trusts, etc.

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