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Setting up joint GICs > 1 hour phone ordeal
September 3, 2023
9:56 am
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When it came to setting up joint accounts, I thought I'd save time by "batching" 5 GICs that I purchased over the past three weeks and calling in on a Sunday morning of a holiday weekend.

At first, the automated agent said that my wait time would be around 5 minutes, so I felt vindicated! 30 minutes later the CSR joined the call. sf-frown

At first, she said that she would send emails to Mrs. Rail Baron who could then call back and set up the joint accounts! sf-surprised I told her that Mrs. Rail Baron was right there and ready to do the necessary now.

CSR then spent another 30+ minutes reading scripts and obtaining individual approvals for each one of the 5 GICs that were being converted to joint ownership. No possibility to read the statements once and then obtain approval for all of the accounts, either sequentially or all together.

It's good that I'm now up to my CDIC limit for Tang, because I would not want to do much more of this procedure, which seems to combine the worst of both online and phone banking, in terms of time waste.

September 3, 2023
11:21 am
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Rail Baron said
When it came to setting up joint accounts, I thought I'd save time by "batching" 5 GICs that I purchased over the past three weeks and calling in on a Sunday morning of a holiday weekend.

At first, the automated agent said that my wait time would be around 5 minutes, so I felt vindicated! 30 minutes later the CSR joined the call. sf-frown

At first, she said that she would send emails to Mrs. Rail Baron who could then call back and set up the joint accounts! sf-surprised I told her that Mrs. Rail Baron was right there and ready to do the necessary now.

CSR then spent another 30+ minutes reading scripts and obtaining individual approvals for each one of the 5 GICs that were being converted to joint ownership. No possibility to read the statements once and then obtain approval for all of the accounts, either sequentially or all together.

It's good that I'm now up to my CDIC limit for Tang, because I would not want to do much more of this procedure, which seems to combine the worst of both online and phone banking, in terms of time waste.  

I feel your pain. I vented here about the same thing with 2 or GIC's a few months ago. And we could barely decifer what the snarky and heavily-accented CSR was saying. People here suggested we should have called back in the hope of a better experience. But we had already been on hold for 45+ minutes ...

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September 3, 2023
11:26 am
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There is a lot to be said for the ease of online buying joint GIC's @ Oaken and until Sep 21, Hubert ...

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September 3, 2023
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I had a similar experience last week, as the spouse. 14 minutes on hold followed by 35 mintes of Tang reps talking at me and asking me to say "yes" periodically - and that was for just one GIC!

They seem to be compensating somewhat for the large number of reps whose accents are difficult to understand. During the 35 minutes, I was made to listen to 3 prerecorded messages in perfect Canadian English before giving my "yes". It made me wonder if their lawyers made them do it because even they couldn't understand the reps and feared these consents might not stand up in court.

I read somewhere recently that Tang is getting a new CEO. I think, not sure, they said this person was formerly with ING. Maybe a good sign?

September 4, 2023
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In the rare (maybe two) cases where I really wasn't able to communicate with a phone rep, I simply asked to be escalated or given another rep, and in both cases that was simple (if not always instant) and done without rancor. I'd just say, "this isn't working. Can you get me the next level agent?

On both cases, their lack of understanding of their policies and my questions was the issue, not just language.

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September 4, 2023
6:27 am
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Next time try the 'call me back feature'. My experience is that is 'much faster' than staying on the phone and wait for an operator to pick up. Not sure why but i have learnt to never stay on the phone and hold, as that does not speed things up at all.

However when they are really busy. sometimes they turn off that option.

September 4, 2023
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Don’t think Tangerine has a “call me back” option.

Had the same experience as the OP. Irritating but about an hour of pain will be paid for by the extra interest we will be getting.

September 4, 2023
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mordko said
Don’t think Tangerine has a “call me back” option.

I didn't either, but it does exist. It just isn't offered every time and no one seems to know when it will or will not be offered. I have asked their CSRs about it and gotten nowhere. There appears to be no apparent way to deliberately trigger it, either.

September 4, 2023
4:48 pm
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My wife & I have a joint savings account at Tang.Does that make it any easier to purchase a joint GIC ?

September 4, 2023
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HermanH said

mordko said
Don’t think Tangerine has a “call me back” option.

I didn't either, but it does exist. It just isn't offered every time and no one seems to know when it will or will not be offered. I have asked their CSRs about it and gotten nowhere. There appears to be no apparent way to deliberately trigger it, either.  

Maybe the call back option is governed by the same algorithm that offers bonus interest on HISA deposits? I have never gotten either, so there is one negative correlation data point. sf-wink

September 4, 2023
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semi-retired said
My wife & I have a joint savings account at Tang.Does that make it any easier to purchase a joint GIC ?  

Nope. You still need to buy it in one persons name and then call, wait and go through the whole rigmarole while trying to figure out what the heck the agent is trying to say.

September 8, 2023
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Tangerine has the worst and most stupid, annoying and most frustrating Joint GIC setup. I had opened a few GIC joint with my husband and children. We each had to listen a few prerecording messages over and over again one by one. So if you have three joint GICs with 4 members of your family, you would have to repeatedly listen to the same prerecording messages like 12 times as each of you will have to agree to add and accept each other. We were on the phone with the CSR for three hours to complete the joint GIC, not to mention I was on hold waiting on line for 20 mins to get the line cut off, and then I had to call again and waited another 40 mins to get to talk with an agent. After three hours setup process, the agent said the 3rd and subsequent members names would need to be added by the back office and will be displayed a couple days later. Now five days later, I checked my GIC, the third member's name still hasn't showed up. This is going to be the last time I open any GIC with Tangerine. I'll never put everyone going through this and waste so much time again. Never ever again.

September 9, 2023
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Yes I agreed Tangerine has the worst joint GIC setup. I have joint GICs at Outlook financial, Achieva Financial and Hubert, none of them required me to call in to speak with a CSR. Tangerine's recent 1.5 year GIC @6% is good so I opened 2 GICs recently and I just got off the phone and this was my experience. Expected wait time was 30 minutes and I got connected with a CSR in 25 minutes. Listened to 4 pre-recorded messages (2 messages per GIC) and completed the process in 10 minutes. Total time 35 minutes and I guessed I was lucky that the CSR spoke perfect English without any accent or else it will take longer.

September 11, 2023
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From a service/wait time standpoint, its pretty simple.

If the wait time isn't too bad, all it means is nobody phoned in that day to set up a joint GIC. sf-frown

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September 11, 2023
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can some one tell me, tangerine gic mature, is it auto renew or I can set in advance online all money to my Tangerine savings account.

Do I need to call ?

Thanks information.

September 11, 2023
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mw said
can some one tell me, tangerine gic mature, is it auto renew or I can set in advance online all money to my Tangerine savings account.

Do I need to call ?

Thanks information.  

Click on maturity options when viewing your GIC page. As you will see, you can choose either (and you would have set this when buying the GIC, but it can be changed). However you cannot change the term if you want to renew it.

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September 11, 2023
4:49 pm
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Anybody go over their CIDC coverage with Tangerine..
At 6% I trippled it ..

September 11, 2023
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victor6433 said
Anybody go over their CIDC coverage with Tangerine..
At 6% I trippled it ..  

I am over their CDIC coverage and I am not concerned at all. Tangerine is owned by Scotia Bank. I know Scotia bank is not obligated to save Tangerine but I think that the chance of Tangerine going under AND Scotia Bank giving up on it is slim.

September 11, 2023
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Warwick111 said

I am over their CDIC coverage and I am not concerned at all. Tangerine is owned by Scotia Bank. I know Scotia bank is not obligated to save Tangerine but I think that the chance of Tangerine going under AND Scotia Bank giving up on it is slim.  

Why take the chance regardless how small it is?

September 12, 2023
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UkrainianDude said

Why take the chance regardless how small it is?  

Tangerine's current 1 year and 18 month GICs are paying the top rates. I feel perfectly safe to put my money in Tangerine over the CDIC coverage and I do not want the trouble of opening more bank accounts at different FIs with lower returns just for keeping my money below the CDIC limit.

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