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Sarcasm
May 28, 2017
8:55 pm
Loonie
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I would like to know whether sarcasm directed towards other members is considered acceptable behaviour in view of #11 [from the forum rules: https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/site-suggestions/rules-and-etiquette] asking us to "maintain a civil and welcoming environment".

Merriam-Webster offers this definition of sarcasm: " a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain."

It will be good to have this clarified. If the answer is 'yes', then I think the rules should specify that sarcasm is welcome, as many of us would not expect this.

My own opinion is that it's not acceptable. If it is, I will reconsider whether I want to contribute any further to this forum as it's not the environment I want and I don't think anyone wants to be on the receiving end of my sarcasm.

Edit by admin: Moved the post to a new thread and referenced the original thread.

May 28, 2017
9:06 pm
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In general, yes, sarcasm is fine.

If it is used as a personal attack, it is not welcome here.

If it's used against someone specifically, the goal could be a lighthearted "hey, you're being too extreme" which is usually OK. But if the goal is something like "you are stupid" then that is not welcome here. It's a fine line, and I think the more important points are around respecting others and different opinions.

May 29, 2017
5:29 am
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I'm with you Loonie. I don't appreciate sarcasm as in it's true sense it is condescending. A light reminder of too extreme a comment does not come under the definition of sarcasm.
This forum has been a great asset for me to find many valuable sources for money management that I was previously unaware of. Most members are intelligent, thoughtful and kind no matter how daft my question may be.
Although I am very aware that Think-They-Know-It-All type people just want attention, it has kept me off the forum lately.

“Some people are so clever there's just no hope for them.”
― Marty Rubin

May 29, 2017
6:26 am
Loonie
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May 29, 2017
6:35 am
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Loonie said
I would like to know whether sarcasm directed towards other members is considered acceptable behaviour ...  

Following is the comment made on another thread that set off this "firestorm"

If that's what you think, then you have a lot to learn about both.

If what you intend is sarcasm, that has no place in this forum.

May 29, 2017
7:23 am
Bill
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Thanks, Peter, for clarifying this. I think most of us always got that some sarcasm is acceptable (which is clearly not the same as saying it's "welcome"), and also that the right to free and open expression necessarily includes adults sometimes hearing some things we don't particularly, 100% like. I have that experience regularly, including on this site - so be it. Finally if someone finds they are unable to abide by your direction here, well, participation here is optional - each of us can freely pick and choose which forums we want to be part of. Thanks again.

May 29, 2017
10:28 am
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IMO sarcasm is superfluous to any discussion in this forum. I look for information, which for the most part, is what I get from reading other people's posts. I feel that Top It Up has systematically set out to 'stir things up', and he's succeeded. It's a shame that good manners don't always prevail, but I won't be commenting further.

May 29, 2017
2:12 pm
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JenE said
IMO sarcasm is superfluous to any discussion in this forum. I look for information, which for the most part, is what I get from reading other people's posts. I feel that Top It Up has systematically set out to 'stir things up', and he's succeeded. It's a shame that good manners don't always prevail, but I won't be commenting further.  

Ignoring such people (and their posts) is always an option, including purposely not reading their posts, and not being baited into a response. When they have no audience, they eventually tire and fade away (if moderators don't silence them first).

May 29, 2017
4:07 pm
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AltaRed said
Ignoring such people (and their posts) is always an option, including purposely not reading their posts, and not being baited into a response. When they have no audience, they eventually tire and fade away (if moderators don't silence them first).  

People bait all the time..... Really got to think before replying to someone. Am I actually adding something or am I just speaking to this person directly. Being online I don't want to talk to people directly. As they might think anything could be sarcastic. I want to talk in general (doesn't always happen). If that is not possible than not to reply.

May 30, 2017
7:58 am
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This site is doing fine. The admin and mods are effective without being intrusive. They have gotten rid of people before and if it is required they will no doubt do it again in the future. Leave it up to them.

May 30, 2017
8:07 am
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Koogie said
This site is doing fine. The admin and mods are effective without being intrusive. They have gotten rid of people before and if it is required they will no doubt do it again in the future. Leave it up to them.  

+1

Brimley Chen
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May 30, 2017
6:29 pm
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The interwebz is turning into serious business.

June 14, 2017
6:47 am
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Respect no matter how we act is the main point. In this forum, I had people kind of forcing their own personal views on my choice but all with respect and professionally. It's all about understanding behind the screens there are real human and we should act the same way we would in person.

Loonie - You have been a great contributor to this forum. Please don't let anyone change that 🙂 Peter will take care of whoever offends others even if they think it is a funny thing to do!

Please write your comments in the forum.