Topic RSS9:15 am
November 3, 2022
OfflineI have two small GICs in an RSP account at EQ that will mature in the next 8 weeks. I don't plan to renew them, and am thinking of transferring the funds to a new RSP savings account at Oaken that I'd like to open.
Has anyone had experience in transferring registered funds from EQ to Oaken? If so, how long did that take and how smooth was the process?
9:42 am
August 4, 2010
OfflineHaven't done EQ->Oaken specifically, but have done some registered transfers over the years from bank/CU/lifeCOs, including Oaken. The acquiring institution (Oaken in this case) will prepare the required transfer form from your information. They usually require a "wet" signature on these, so you may have to print out their form, sign it, and upload it back to them, or something like that.
Oaken would then send the form to EQ. Except between two brokers, this is often done by fax (and mail is not unheard of), and the cash is quite often delivered by a physical cheque. You also have the transfer desks on both sides, and whatever backlogs or delays they might introduce. I know a few years back did a couple of registered transfers to Oaken from a Manitoba credit union during a big GIC sale, and also in December, and the combination of all those above factors made at least one transfer miss the 30-day rate hold on the GIC purchase, and I had to get them to make an exception. With bad luck or Canada Post both ways, some can take longer, but some might be better.
Aside from consolidating remaining things at Wealthsimple, I try and avoid registered transfers for this reason. For RRSP, there isn't really an alternative, but for TFSA, sometimes things can be planned to do a withdrawal at the end of December and recontribute the cash at the beginning of January when the contribution room becomes re-available, saving an official transfer.
10:06 am
August 4, 2010
OfflineNorman1 said
Distance won't be an issue. Both EQ Bank and Oaken Financial are in downtown Toronto.
And have some cross-ownership as well... 😉 I'm hoping one of them will offer discounted subscriptions to the Economist!
Unfortunately my transfers to Oaken were from Canada Life (London, ON, requests were probably faster back in the 19th century before the Grand Trunk Railroad was built) and Hubert (Selkirk, MB; I'm convinced Oaken routed requests via Red River carts). The Oaken GIC desk was also swamped from the GIC sale and things sat there for a few days.
It was interesting last year when I brought a small amount of FHSA money from EQ to Wealthsimple, the funds appeared at WS very quickly (next day?) after they disappeared from the EQ side. Might just have been intra-city cheque delivery, but I know WS asked me once to check if Hubert could do Fundserv's ad-hoc A$M money system, so it is possible that they can do electronic transfers of registered cash with certain non-brokerage FIs. EQ->WS would seem a likely pair to be trying stuff like this out.
8:53 pm
November 18, 2017
OfflineAt every registered trans fer I've done (but not withdrawals), the FI in question told me CRA mandated mailing certified cheques. Lost over a week's interest every time, even when I offered to ride the cheque over on my bike. They said the cheques had to come from Toronto, even when their head offices were here in Vancouver.
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7:47 am
April 6, 2013
OfflineCRA does not mandate mailing paper cheques and paper transfer forms for direct registered account transfers.
Investment dealers use the ATON system and its related backends to do the transfers. One broker, Interactive Brokers Canada, actually refuses to handle any non-ATON transfers.
A paper cheque with the paper forms via Canada Post are used because those are only common mechanisms between the two institutions for delivering the funds with the documentation.
1:08 pm
October 21, 2013
OfflineFrom experience I'd say it's safe to assume that most if not all, FIs will dawdle in sending your money elsewhere.
Simply put, there's nothing in it for them. Hanging on to the money means they can continue to profit from it, for little or no money. It's better for them if your GIC has matured and is now earning a pittance or zero in their hands. From their point of view, there's no rush; and I don't believe there is any regulation either, just a kind of gentleman's agreement which is not enforced - at least last time I looked.
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