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Contemplating opening account - pros & cons?
March 26, 2022
1:21 pm
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Norman1 said
One will need to calculate the interest paid to confirm any double dipping.

This is what they did for me.
new GIC purchase on Jan 24. Int credit to savings acct for Jan 31 counting the GIC amount as part of balance.
GIC purchase amount debit from savings acct on Feb 2.
They did a "interest adjustment" on Feb 28 to back out the extra interest paid back in Jan.
I always thought double dipping seems too good to be true However Norman's reply #8 made me think they did. The Jan end of month showed they did too upon checking ! However end of Feb is when they took it back lol

March 26, 2022
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We can't really blame them for taking back the interest as they didn't have the money. But the bookkeeping is strange and misleading. They KNEW they didn't have the money, so there was no reason to credit interest in the first place.

March 26, 2022
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cgouimet said

Actually, since oaken don't have transit numbers, you can't push/send $ to oaken from other institutions. You can only pull/receive or send from oaken.  

So if you can only pull funds into Oaken, then funds will be on hold for 5 business days after deposit. sf-frown
Will Oaken let you purchase a GIC while the funds are on hold?

March 26, 2022
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frugal lady said

So if you can only pull funds into Oaken, then funds will be on hold for 5 business days after deposit. sf-frown
Will Oaken let you purchase a GIC while the funds are on hold?  

I dont recall Oaken put a hold on funds that are pulled into the account. I could be wrong and you can contact them to confirm. For sure EQ will do a hold no matter where/how the funds come from.

Putting a hold means you dont have access to it including GIC purchase. You will earn interest at the HISA rate, whatever that is. That is how EQ does it and I imagine other FIs that put a hold on funds will be similar.

March 26, 2022
8:58 pm
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frugal lady said

So if you can only pull funds into Oaken, then funds will be on hold for 5 business days after deposit. sf-frown
Will Oaken let you purchase a GIC while the funds are on hold?

Would Oaken allow one to pull funds from an external account into a GIC directly like Hubert does?

March 27, 2022
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savemoresaveoften said

I dont recall Oaken put a hold on funds that are pulled into the account. I could be wrong and you can contact them to confirm. For sure EQ will do a hold no matter where/how the funds come from.

I established a few links recently to initiate transfers to/from external accounts. I then triggered pulls of $1 from each of those externals to test the links.

In every case, the $1 appeared in my savings account balance almost immediately but not in my available balance for 5-6 business days during which time it remained unavailable to even transfer to another of my Oaken savings accounts.

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March 27, 2022
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Can't recall for sure if you can fund your GIC from a linked external account, try it, if it doesn't work you can call them and they'll lift the hold for you to buy a GIC.

March 27, 2022
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If you phone in to fund a GIC it is done immediately and funds are taken from external account.

March 27, 2022
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I decided to proceed with opening account at Oaken and completed application online March 25.
I did telephone Oaken Mar 26 and my call was answered immediately. They said 5-7 days to open account. Time will tell.

Can someone confirm that the only way to link an external account is with a void cheque?

From their Terms and conditions:
"We will only process Transactions to and from External Accounts with identical
ownership details."
This would mean I can't link a joint external account with an account in my sole name? sf-surprisedsf-frown

March 27, 2022
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frugal lady said
I decided to proceed with opening account at Oaken and completed application online March 25.
I did telephone Oaken Mar 26 and my call was answered immediately. They said 5-7 days to open account. Time will tell.

Can someone confirm that the only way to link an external account is with a void cheque?

From their Terms and conditions:
"We will only process Transactions to and from External Accounts with identical
ownership details."
This would mean I can't link a joint external account with an account in my sole name? sf-surprisedsf-frown  

I opened my savings account with a scan of a void cheque via email. All good except for the 10 day wait for the Canada Post delivery of final setup instructions with customer and account numbers. Went through same process for my wife's savings account. Once both were set, I opened a new savings account and at some point in that process got to the option for adding a joint owner customer number. And voila, a joint savings account.

Initial setup for a new customer is sssllllooowww. Adding subsequent accounts to existing customers is simple and quick. Establishing additional external links to other banks is quick and ok as long as what you want linking to is on their list. Hubert is not, for example. You can't send $ to, or draw $ from, Oaken from other institutions; but from Oaken you can pull $ from, or send $ to, those institutions you have established links from.

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March 27, 2022
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I only deal with them in person, but they require a void cheque there too for deposits of interest or matured GIC. And every new GIC requires repeating the procedure! A bit of a nuisance but works well once in place.

March 28, 2022
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frugal lady and Loonie:

I was able to get a form from Peoples - where I do not have any chequing accounts - that serves as equivalent to a voided cheque.
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March 28, 2022
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RetirEd said
frugal lady and Loonie:

I was able to get a form from Peoples - where I do not have any chequing accounts - that serves as equivalent to a voided cheque.
RetirEd  

I believe that's known as a "PAD" ... "Pre-Auhthorized Deposit" form ...

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March 28, 2022
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RetirEd said
frugal lady and Loonie:

I was able to get a form from Peoples - where I do not have any chequing accounts - that serves as equivalent to a voided cheque.
RetirEd  

Thanks, good to know cause chequing accounts limited.

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