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Software that lets you print and mail your return
February 7, 2021
11:12 am
Donald_Trump
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in the past I have used studio tax really the only tax software I have used .
It let me print out the return with my printer and mail it in I do not have a CRA account . It is for sale this year but it has been said here that it was hard to purchase . will most tax software let you print out and mail in your return ?
Could some one recommend some that would

thank you

February 7, 2021
2:53 pm
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'Donald_Trump' ... what's with that ❗❓ sf-confused

Wouldn't make more sense to set up your own CRA account ... in this day & age, most everyone should have one.

IMO,

    Dean

sf-cool " Live Long And Prosper " sf-cool

February 7, 2021
3:01 pm
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I am not aware one has to have a MyAccount with CRA to NETFILE a tax return. That would eliminate perhaps half the population from NETFILING.

Any tax software will allow one to print and mail a paper return but why do that if one does not have too?

February 7, 2021
3:25 pm
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One reason to print and mail is the fact that one cannot Netfile a return for a deceased person. I learned that when my mother died. I had to print and mail her last two returns. It was a surprise to me at the time. I was using Ufile and they conveniently have an option to just print the required pages for CRA.

February 7, 2021
4:05 pm
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One does not need to set up an online account with CRA to NETFILE. One just needs to use tax software that has been NETFILE certified.

I haven't seen any NETFILE certified tax software that does not allow one to print the return and mail it in. As pwm mentioned, there are situations where CRA does not allow one to NETFILE a return even if one has the software to do so.

GenuTax Standard is expected to be still "free" for tax year 2020 returns. The updated NETFILE-certified version to do 2020 returns is expected to be released later this month. In the meantime, one can download the current version and try printing a 2019 return.

February 7, 2021
5:03 pm
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Give Studio Tax a try. It's free, comprehensive and easy to use.

February 7, 2021
5:08 pm
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deepcman said
Give Studio Tax a try. It's free, comprehensive and easy to use.  

It is not free to print or file a return.

February 7, 2021
6:02 pm
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Pricing of StudioTax has changed.

It is now $15 to NETFILE or print the 2020 return, unless total income (line 15000) less than $20,000 or the return is for a northern resident (Northwest Territories, Yukon, and Nunavut).

February 7, 2021
6:49 pm
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I have used Studio Tax in the past, and will continue...

There are three options to buy/obtain your license to either NETFILE and/or print.
I purchased the 'online payment-instant license' method, as I am comfortable using that method, and received my 29 digit license via email within minutes.

The other two payment options are somewhat more involved, e-transfer or cheque, and would not be 'instant'.

February 8, 2021
12:58 am
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A possible work around with "studio tax"... you could in the past, "save file as", here select PDF format. Using acrobat reader, you should be able to print the file. Now, this printed version may not be up to the high official CRA standards but I'd give it to them anyway and honestly tell them... live with it.

My government rant will NOT go further but man i want it toooooo.

February 8, 2021
8:50 am
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I use TurboTax, it offers an option to print return for mailing to CRA.

TurboTax Basic, one for simple returns, goes for $19.99. Can be ordered online at Staples (free delivery) and Best Buy. Also available in stores, at least at Staples.

TurboTax software this year comes with two options: "Download only" and "Includes CD & Download Option." Interestingly, same price for each. If ordering TurboTax online or buying in store, check for description on the box.

I always buy one with CD, because browser security settings might prevent downloadable installation file from running on computer.

February 8, 2021
12:28 pm
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The CRA themselves has the income tax calculation software. And they keep maintaining their software with the up-to-date rules or numbers for the upcoming tax year.

Why the CRA has to certify some 3rd party vendor software to ensure that they replicate their calculation accurately when the CRA can simply wrap up their software and provide it to the citizens officially and for free?

Electronic tax returns make auditing a lot faster and easier for the CRA. So if the CRA wants people to NETIFILE, then they should provide the tools for people to do so.

It does not cost the CRA any extra because the software is something they already have and up-to-date for each tax year.

Then there will never be discrepancy if everyone is using the official income tax software from the CRA.

February 8, 2021
6:03 pm
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In Norway, people can view, edit or submit their tax return directly to the skatteetaten (Norwegian Tax Administration) website.

I find it perfectly make sense and secure to be able to submit a tax return from CRA MyAccount. Unfortunately, the only option to submit taxes electronically is to go through some 3rd party software. There are no names or addresses one can find who are behind those software companies.

I heard enough CRA scams and CERB frauds. They are so bad that prompts CRA to shutdown for a few days in last August. Eventully, CRA deploys a few measures including 2 factor authentication, and disabled address change and direct deposit change pages to this date. I have moved but I still cannot register my address change with the CRA yet.

Yes, It is just crazy to hear stories like someone trying to apply for CERB only to discover that they were already applied.

Probably one of the most personal, personal, and private information is to be found on people's tax return. SIN, DOB, name, address. I just find it silly that I have to turn it over to some stranger software and then let it forward it to CRA on my behalf. Anyone who has personal details like this can call CRA for a password reset before last August. That's why so many fraudulent CERB applications.

I think paper is more secure than https with 256-bit encyprtion goinggoing to CRA through a 3rd party.

Netfile is out of date. Think Norway.

February 8, 2021
7:34 pm
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I apologize for my misinformation about Studio Tax and I learned it here from these astute members. It's been free up until this year and as a matter of fact I downloaded the latest version and was starting to populate the information but will need a license to print or file. Looks like I'll have to suck up the $15 cost as it's cheaper than having to start learning new software and these guys support Quebec tax returns.

February 8, 2021
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DEEPCMAN.... please see my post #10. Can you "save as"?

February 9, 2021
6:36 am
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Can't 'save as' a PDF and we can't print until the software is approved by CRA. We'll see what changes one it's approved. I file electronically so I'm fine with the $15.

February 9, 2021
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SaverJunior said
I just find it silly that I have to turn it over to some stranger software and then let it forward it to CRA on my behalf.

I still believe it is much safer to use 3rd party software ON YOUR computer, do your taxes and do netfile than doing ON-LINE taxes (through 3rd party). Unfortunately I do not trust could and similar technologies to handle my very personal data.

For example, TurboTax has free tax processing and filing if you use their APP and do your taxes on-line. You can import your last year return, do this year taxes and file it.
I still am going to buy desktop version, do taxes at home and do netfile. I doubt any of my data will end up at TurboTax site.

February 18, 2021
1:09 pm
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CRA yet suspended 100,000 accounts yesterday over suspicion of potential data breach. Who can have massive access to 100,000 taxpayer account credentials? My guesses (1) CRA database team (i.e. inside job) and/or (2) third party tax software developers

Millions of Canadians file their income tax return by NETFILE for reasons of ease, and speed of tax return submission/refund. Ah, also for sense of security which can be false. Logically, the CRA should let taxpayers submit their T1 return directly online from MyAccount. Unfortunately, that is not available. To netfile, you must employ a CRA certified third party software. That's problematic as millions of taxpayer identity and tax return details have to go through them and then get netfiled. By the way, CRA identifies you on the phone by asking your name, DOB, SIN, and the amount of a line on your recent tax return. These are all info readily available to the software companies if they determined to keep a copy during netfiling.

First of all, many of these tax software are offered for free. There are no ads. How can these software companies survive with no revenue for years or even a decade? For instance, some of you might remember Studiotax has been offering their free software starting 2003 or so?!

I scanned through the list of certified software vendors. Few of them tell you about their office address or phone number or a name. Studiotax is one of the couple that have an address posted. But looking closer, Sutdiotax address is a PO Box at a UPS store on Bank St. How can you say Suite 325 when it is a box number? Fooling is frauding.

I won't start suspecting Studiotax if they don't start charging. They start charging after 17 years make me think they want me to believe that they are a for-profit company, not after anything else like your credentials. This is arguably a strategy to cover up what led to the CRA portal shutdown last August. Just too many CRA phone scams as well. Google it as I don't want to go into that.

You might say all tax software companies have a privacy policy claim on their website. That doesn't mean a thing. To all tech savvy members reading this, start recording your internet traffic next time before you netfile. Then afterwards, examine for any IP addresses that does not belong to the CRAs. I never did this myself, but I will if I still decided to netfile this year. As they say, it is called "trust and verify".

February 19, 2021
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SaverJunior said
CRA yet suspended 100,000 accounts yesterday over suspicion of potential data breach. Who can have massive access to 100,000 taxpayer account credentials?   

CRA suspends online accounts of over 100,000 Canadians after login credentials found for sale on dark web.

Some of that stolen login data was then put up for sale on the dark web, which is a hidden part of the Internet only accessible through tailored software.

CRA purchased the stolen data and used Bitcoin to complete transaction on dark web.

When those credentials were cross-referenced with internal MyCRA login data, the agency noted over 100,000 accounts that used the same combination of email and password.

The agency assures that the data was not stolen from their servers, but instead through one of the many small-to-massive data breaches that have plagued an increasing number of organizations over the years (Equifax and Desjardins are just recent examples).

Reference: https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/cra-suspends-online-accounts-of-over-100000-canadians-after-their-login-credentials-found-for-sale-on-dark-web

February 19, 2021
2:57 pm
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How and why would any external organizations have someone's CRA login information ? Any ideas ?

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