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GIC rates from 3rd party broker
February 22, 2022
6:42 am
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Scrivens, Ontario insurance brokers & financial advisors
https://www.scrivens.ca/investment-rates

2.60% 1-yr
2.55% 18-month
2.75% 2-yr
2.75% 30-month
3.00% 3-yr sf-smile
3.20% 4-yr
3.30% 5-yr

Topic intended for data point purpose - updates & corrections. No individual off-topic views please.

February 22, 2022
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At 3.30%, that five year rate exceeds last month's brief 3.25 offer from CIBC.

The same rates are also currently available at Monarch Wealth, with the exception that no rates are advertised for 18 and 30 months.

February 22, 2022
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Any idea which bank/CU is behind these particular GICs?

February 23, 2022
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Scrivens, a broker and with whom I have had good experience with, is just getting better rates by the day:

1-Year 2.70%
2-Year 2.78%
3-Year 3.00%
4-Year 3.20%
5-Year 3.30%

Stephen

February 23, 2022
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HermanH said
Any idea which bank/CU is behind these particular GICs?  

That would be good to know. Perhaps the actual issuer would match that rate rather than the need to deal with an intermediary. I believe WealthOne Bank matched the rate the Agents sold it at which was higher than the rate from WealthOne.

February 24, 2022
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Nehpets said
Scrivens, a broker and with whom I have had good experience with, is just getting better rates by the day:

1-Year 2.70%
2-Year 2.78%
3-Year 3.00%
4-Year 3.20%
5-Year 3.30%

Stephen  

Nehpets,
except for indicating that their website is intended for Ontario and Quebec, there's no real info about how they operate. Does one need to deal with an agent there, or simply invest online by selecting rate/term?
Also, what, if any, is the commission % on investment with them?
Do they require a minimum amt. for investment in GIC for ex.?

February 24, 2022
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Monarch is also offering near-identical rates.

1-Year 2.63%
2-Year 2.78%
3-Year 3.00%
4-Year 3.20%
5-Year 3.30%

February 24, 2022
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BlueSky said

...... Does one need to deal with an agent there, or simply invest online by selecting rate/term?
Also, what, if any, is the commission % on investment with them?
Do they require a minimum amt. for investment in GIC for ex.?  

Scrivens doesn't have an online interface, so I have dealt with them in person and on the telephone. The person I deal with is Jane Dunlop who has served me well in the past. They sometimes have limited time specials, not advertised from FI's looking for money, that can be interesting.

There is no added commission, as they are paid by the FI.

If there are minimums, which I never encountered, Jane would tell you.

Stephen

February 24, 2022
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HermanH said
Any idea which bank/CU is behind these particular GICs?  

Excellent question. Who is the actual issuer of the GIC? Also, is the GIC CDIC or Ontario province guaranteed?

February 24, 2022
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You can bet on it being insured by either CDIC or one of the provincial agencies. We learned a while back that deposit brokers sometimes sell GICs from CUs in other provinces, giving customers access that they wouldn't otherwise have. I can no longer remember the reference but it was a BC credit union.

February 24, 2022
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For 1 yr., Monarch Wealth was offering today 2.70%, as per their rate hotline.

As nobody has posted here yet about actual issuers with the highest rates through brokers, my guess is the leaders are likely WFCU and Wealth One Bank, with Haventree Bank and Parama C.U. possibly among the leaders.

February 25, 2022
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The gap between 1-yr going direct & via brokers is getting wider. It's 2.75% for 1-year among the brokers today! Noticeably brokers rates change more frequently.

March 7, 2022
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18-month reached 3% today sf-smile Check chart for other terms after today's refresh.

March 7, 2022
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Through Ontario deposit broker Fiscal Agents today, one year GIC's are 2.72% for $10,000 minimum and 2.78% for $25,000 minimum, from IC Savings CU.

Deposit broker rates can change more frequently as the financial institution can withdraw a leading rate after as little as a day, once it has attracted the desired amount of deposits.

March 7, 2022
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3% for 18 months at GICWealth. Most terms increased today.

March 7, 2022
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Loonie said
3% for 18 months at GICWealth. Most terms increased today.  

Yup, rates are up!
I noted today a new issue of Perpetual Preferred Shares by Intact Insurance paying 5.25% annual dividend paid quarterly. So yes returns have definitely moved up generally.

Added:
Just noted the Intact Insurance issue sold out in iTrade site. That was fast!

March 14, 2022
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Noob questions regarding GIC brokers. What's the catch in using them? Any additional costs, caveats?

March 14, 2022
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See previous threads on deposit brokers for details.
They take their cut from the FI, not from you.
Rates for registered plans are lower than non-reg'd.

March 14, 2022
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Hmm said
Noob questions regarding GIC brokers. What's the catch in using them? Any additional costs, caveats?  

A recent thread about GIC brokers: https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/gic/gic-brokers/

March 15, 2022
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Hmm said
Noob questions regarding GIC brokers. What's the catch in using them? Any additional costs, caveats?  

For me, I started using one recently. The lack of "direct access" to the FI that issued the GICs and the fact that my $$$ goes thru a broker makes me a little bit uncomfortable (esp when I write the check to the broker instead of to the issuer direct). The feeling is like "is the extra 30-40bps in yield worth the risk"...

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