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1-year deposit term suggestions
May 6, 2020
7:12 pm
youngAndhungry
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Hey everyone, Just a young guy with all my money in RBC chequing account(not for long). My TFSA contribution is currently 28000 and I have 25000 I want to put away SAFELY(aka no risk).

I have been looking into GICs and the best rates I could find are with Oaken and People trust with 2.3% respectfully. Has anyone dealt with both and know which I should store my money for the one year deposit term, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

May 6, 2020
9:38 pm
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Both are good and professional to deal with. Both are CDIC insured.
Both have no ATM cards or cheque’s. You have to set up me2me transfers. Both allow free transfer out from registered funds.

I do NOT recommend Oaken for TFSA. Oaken does NOT have savings accounts for registered funds.

I would go with PT for TFSA.

I am currently transferring all TFSA out of Oaken.

You might want to verify but last I knew PT has RRSP accounts but NO RRIF accounts.

You might also want to look at Hubert.

May 6, 2020
10:07 pm
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What GICInvestor says is true.
I have investments with both of them. I prefer Oaken for the smoothness and efficiency of their operation, but it can be a problem that they don't offer TFSA savings accounts, only GICs. When your TFSA GIC matures, this means you must decide what to do with it right away - either reinvest it there, transfer it to another financial institution, or cash out the TFSA. You can't just let it sit in asvings until you decide what to do or until a better offer cmes along.

Oaken has been more consistent than Peoples in offering top tier rates over several years. So, it is reasonable to think you might just want to leave your money at Oaken until such time as you plan to use it. You could just let the GICs roll over until then, but, still, it's wise to always be aware of competition.

Since you are young, you will probably have intentions of spending this money at some point. Think carefully about how long you want to tie it up in GICs.

May 7, 2020
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Loonie said
What GICInvestor says is true.
I have investments with both of them. I prefer Oaken for the smoothness and efficiency of their operation, but it can be a problem that they don't offer TFSA savings accounts, only GICs. When your TFSA GIC matures, this means you must decide what to do with it right away - either reinvest it there, transfer it to another financial institution, or cash out the TFSA. You can't just let it sit in asvings until you decide what to do or until a better offer cmes along.

Oaken has been more consistent than Peoples in offering top tier rates over several years. So, it is reasonable to think you might just want to leave your money at Oaken until such time as you plan to use it. You could just let the GICs roll over until then, but, still, it's wise to always be aware of competition.

Since you are young, you will probably have intentions of spending this money at some point. Think carefully about how long you want to tie it up in GICs.  

The nice thing about GICS is they mature. You can spend some/all or reinvest part of the funds somewhere.

May 8, 2020
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I prefer Oaken for the smoothness and efficiency of their operation, but it can be a problem that they don't offer TFSA savings accounts, only GICs.

Loonie. I agree Oaken usually but not always is the rate leader. Today that is not true. But not splitting hairs. I found that they, Peoples Trust, are just as professional to deal with on the phone. They have also improved the GIC application process and it compares to Oaken and has some remarkable features as you move along. And no more follow up for making joint GICs, pay interest annually or pay to savings account at maturity. They have it all....except RRIFs. PT has two options for GIC application and the one I just mentioned is outside of being logged into your account......there is a quicker application to do while signed on but may require a phone call to complete for interest payments etc. WARNING....if you apply for GIC outside of your logon make sure you know your actual account numbers are for TFSA and non registered account and your spouse too. You will find those on your downloaded paper statements.

May 8, 2020
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One drawback with Peoples Trust is, as far as I know, they don’t give notice of their rates decreasing. Today the rates % are 2.10, 2.20, 2.30, 2.30, 2.40 for 1 to 5 years respectively.
(The GIC chart should be updated)

May 8, 2020
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yuj said
One drawback with Peoples Trust is, as far as I know, they don’t give notice of their rates decreasing. Today the rates % are 2.10, 2.20, 2.30, 2.30, 2.40 for 1 to 5 years respectively.
(The GIC chart should be updated)  

Right, yuj.
Yesterday I did an online application. I also talked to PT on phone about something else. And we got onto the subject of the online application. He tells me....once you have the application in the rate will hold just in case rates drop. They did, he knew!!

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May 9, 2020
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youngAndhungry said
Hey everyone, Just a young guy with all my money in RBC chequing account(not for long). My TFSA contribution is currently 28000 and I have 25000 I want to put away SAFELY(aka no risk).

I have been looking into GICs and the best rates I could find are with Oaken and People trust with 2.3% respectfully. Has anyone dealt with both and know which I should store my money for the one year deposit term, any advice would be greatly appreciated.  

I've never dealt with Peoples Trust, or Oaken Financial, for that matter. Both are equally good options—both earn high marks in customer service from people on these forums and elsewhere. Oaken Financial is set up in such a way so as to reportedly make linking at your external financial institutions problematic, if not functionally impossible, so that's a knock against them. Peoples Trust and Peoples Bank, by contrast, accounts can be linked seemlessly and easily on both sides. Oaken allows digital linking of accounts; Peoples Trust does not, but Peoples Bank may. That part is probably a wash (i.e., personal preference). Oaken lets you book GICs, and possibly HISAs, in the direct-to-consumer channel under both Home Trust Company and Home Bank, effectively doubling your CDIC coverage. Peoples allows this as well, but you will have separate online banking profiles.

I have dealt with Concentra Bank and their process is all digital, simple, and super easy. Downside is their HISA is just a placeholder to park your renewed GICs as it pays no interest.

The bigger question is...what is your likelihood of needing to withdraw those funds in less than one year? Either may allow you to withdraw some or all of your GIC early, but they are under no obligation to do so and, if they do, you will forfeit any interest.

My preference would probably see you to go with Hubert Financial, park it in a 1-year quarterly GIC, allowing you to withdraw, without interest penalty, all or part on each quarterly anniversary date. Also, unlimited deposit insurance coverage through the Deposit Guarantee Corporation of Manitoba.

Cheers,
Doug

May 10, 2020
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Doug said
My preference would probably see you to go with Hubert Financial, park it in a 1-year quarterly GIC, allowing you to withdraw, without interest penalty, all or part on each quarterly anniversary date. Also, unlimited deposit insurance coverage through the Deposit Guarantee Corporation of Manitoba.

I am not confident this is correct info. To my best knowledge, you can close your 1-year GIC at 3, 6 and 9 months 'anniversary' and take principal and interest earned but you cannot withdraw partial amount and leave the rest until end of term (1 year).

May 10, 2020
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Hubert website says.

The good news? You’re not locked in for the entire year — you can redeem your term after three, six, or nine months (and keep the interest that’s already been paid to you). The even better news? If you keep your funds in place for the entire year, you’ll earn an average rate of 2.20%* for the year (with compounded interest). Not too shabby, is it?

May 10, 2020
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I suspect one needs to divide the money into multiple one-year Hubert term deposits in order to have the ability to do a "partial" redemption.

rhvic reported a while back that partial redemption of an one-year Hubert term is not permitted.

May 10, 2020
12:23 pm
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pooreva said

I am not confident this is correct info. To my best knowledge, you can close your 1-year GIC at 3, 6 and 9 months 'anniversary' and take principal and interest earned but you cannot withdraw partial amount and leave the rest until end of term (1 year).  

That ⬆ is correct.
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Norman1 said

I suspect one needs to divide the money into multiple one-year Hubert term deposits in order to have the ability to do a "partial" redemption.

rhvic reported a while back that partial redemption of an one-year Hubert term is not permitted.  

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May 10, 2020
12:55 pm
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Thank you to everyone for the suggestions! for my first time on the forum I have learned a bunch and thank you all for the help! I have decided to do a couple of things:

first RBC offered me a high interest savings account at 2.25% for the first 3 months

second I have opened an account with Hubert and will go with a 1 year GIC there.

my follow up question becomes do you think they will honor the 2.3% that I opened my application with and if not should I wait until GIC rates go back up before locking it up
(to answer Doug I will not need access to that money for the entire year but like the idea of taking it out after the quarter and still making some interest).

May 10, 2020
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Be aware that the rate for the one year GIC at Hubert is graduated, so the first quarter rate is lower than what you would get in some savings accounts.

In my view, the advantage of the Hubert GIC is, first, cashability in an emergency, and, second, you can upgrade at the end of each quarter if they should offer a better rate, by cashing in and repurchasing, provided the new rate of the first quarter is equal to or greater than the rate you were going to get for that quarter with the original GIC. IN the past I have done the latter a few times.

I don't know if they will honour your original rate. I doubt it. However, if you want a one-year GIC, I wouldn't wait around for rates to improve. You can always cash it in if something dramatic happens.

May 11, 2020
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Different strokes for different folks. I asked my closest friends over the last year if they had a savings account. None of my friends know my other friends. Most did not have a savings account. They did things differently. Some said it is not worth the bother. I found a FI that has a savings account with one free debit per month. The rate is 2%. I consider it a one month term deposit. There are several of these FI. I am sure their services and products are good and competitive.

May 11, 2020
11:16 am
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Unless you are already invested there in excess of your CDIC insurance limits, putting money into Motive's Savvy Savings account at 2.2%, with the money being always accessible, makes the most sense to me. The rate isn't guaranteed, but Motive tends to hold rates longer than most FIs.

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