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Promotions with direct deposit
April 19, 2021
9:31 pm
HermanH
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I have noticed that many promotions for new accounts also include a bonus for those who make a direct deposit of payroll or government funds. For example, a bank might offer $250 if a new client arranges for payroll deposits to the bank.

A bank only offers such incentives in order to make money. So, can someone explain how a bank makes money by accepting payroll and other directly deposited funds?

I tried to set up a test direct deposit (as an employer would) at my personal account on HSBC and it was asking me about an STK (sp?) and how costs would be shared.

On a secondary note, if a business or municipality is paid directly from a bank account or via cheque, does anyone know how much it costs the receiving account? (I am not talking about the cost associated with an Interac transaction.)

April 22, 2021
9:27 pm
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The banks make money though accepting direct deposits by making it that much harder to close that account and move one's banking elsewhere.

To shutdown one's $15.95/month RBC Signature No Limit Banking account after accepting their Apple AirPods offer, one would have to go through the hassle of redirecting one's payroll direct deposit and at least two pre-authorized monthly bill debits.

For each month one procrastinates, RBC collects $15.95.

April 22, 2021
9:39 pm
Norman1
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HermanH said

I tried to set up a test direct deposit (as an employer would) at my personal account on HSBC and it was asking me about an STK (sp?) and how costs would be shared.

I doubt you can originate a payroll direct deposit from an HSBC personal account.

Traditional banks like HSBC don't offer that service to their personal banking clients. They are called Customer Automated Funds Transfers (CAFT). Traditional banks offer CAFT's only to their business banking clients.

If you were asked for SWIFT codes and how costs would be shared, then you were offered a wire transfer. That's very different from a CAFT.

Some online banks do offer CAFT's to personal banking clients. But, the resulting direct deposits are not tagged as payroll deposits or as pension deposits. It's not going fool another bank that is looking for a payroll direct deposit for their special offer.

April 27, 2021
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Norman's answer is quite correct.

They also plan to make even more money off you in the future, after first collecting all your data and probably checking your credit rating.

Now that they know all about you, and because you found it too much trouble to close the account, they will now try to market to you other "products" - credit card, mortgage, car loan, line of credit, RSP loan, investments, additional accounts, GICs, etc.

In addition, a significant number of people will open the account but will never get the ipod because they don't get all the deposits lined up correctly in time. But they now have an account anyway and they are a marketing target for RBC.

To close an RBC account without paying a fee, you have to go into a branch. That is an opportunity for RBC to sell you on something else.

Not all of you will bite on additional products etc., but there will be enough of you to make all those ipods worth their while. They buy them in bulk, wholesale, anyway.
That's why they do it.

It's a lot like "loss leaders" at the grocery store. They advertise one or two products at a price where they will lose money, but the point was not to sell you cheap watermelons. The point was to get you in the store, where most of you will buy other stuff as well.

April 27, 2021
7:40 am
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Loonie said
To close an RBC account without paying a fee, you have to go into a branch. That is an opportunity for RBC to sell you on something else.

Slightly off topic, but it appears RBC is currently waiving these fees. I closed Checking, Savings, RRSP accounts with RBC this year, over the phone. I have no accounts left with RBC. I was not charged account closure fees.

To be more specific, they credited few dollars to my empty RBC checking account, then took them out (must have been standard closure fee) and closed it for good.

So, if someone has dormant RBC accounts they want to close without visiting branch, now may be good time to do that over the phone.

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