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Pressure on Bank of Canada to bailout real estate investors, power of sale
May 10, 2022
4:26 pm
mechone
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Bill said
I've been around a while and I honestly can't remember a time when more than a very few folks lost their homes due to economy problems, just hasn't happened in Canada. I remember when $200k was considered to be a crazy price but then it just kept going up and now $1 million or so seems crazy but likely it'll just be the same, soon we'll think $1.5 million is crazy, etc. Maybe different in boom-bust places like Alberta, I don't know, but GTA, etc I can't remember mass defaults ever.  

Really? I can clearly remember my sister crying to my mother in the early 80s their mortgage was going from 10% to 21% and they both had to take 2nd jobs and eat spaghetti 150 different ways to keep the house. I remember many houses for sale with foreclosure written . My Buddy lived in a condo left the keys on the counter and walked away, so many condos went bust they turned into rentals.My first Mortgage in 1988 was at 10 % . All of this realestate price rises & inflation ,has been caused to too cheap money for too long . Blame the government they wanted cheap money to borrow and spend which they did like druken sailors. We are just starting ,the bank rate will have to be higher than inflation to tame it . Housing prices are already falling and hundreds are being taken off the market. But realestate will tell nows the time to buy , just like John Roth telling people nows the time to buy Nortel ,all while he's cashing in millions before it crashed

May 10, 2022
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rpotter28 said

In the early to mid 90's I listed many homes, where when the Seller handed me the keys they said "Just get me out of here without losing too much money". A whole lot of work and a whole lot of time later, I mostly got them out, but many lost money.  

Your last two posts made for interesting reading. Thanks for contributing your real life experiences. You should write that book.

May 10, 2022
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mechone said

But realestate will tell nows the time to buy , just like John Roth telling people nows the time to buy Nortel ,all while he's cashing in millions before it crashed  

I can't speak to your experiences, but that's not me. I am on record with my clients, that anyone who bought a waterfront home or cottage for example in the last 12 months in my market is out of their mind. Doesn't make me any sales, but I am confident in my opinion.

It has been however, as of today, a great time to sell. But IMHO it will be for less than February/March this year.

May 10, 2022
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JohnnyCash said

Your last two posts made for interesting reading. Thanks for contributing your real life experiences. You should write that book.  

Thanks, maybe I will. It will be an honest assessment based on what actually happens/happened, I can assure you of that.

Hint: Almost every Real Estate expert you see interviewed in the press has no idea what happens day to day on the ground, and most are towing a company line for profits. Again, I could write a book but not in this post.

May 11, 2022
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Broadly speaking, anything that makes real-estate dealers happy is a Bad Thing for everyone else (save perhaps the REIT guys). The dealers are always saying we need to get more money out there and more people into the housing market - exactly the prescription for endless commission bloat and the prolongation of The Bubble and an increasingly disastrous collapse when it comes.
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May 11, 2022
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rpotter28 said

Thanks, maybe I will. It will be an honest assessment based on what actually happens/happened, I can assure you of that.
 

Longtime pro ghostwriter here. Why don't you reach out to Rob Carrick at G&M and see if he's interested in interviewing you? Rob is a fan of this site and references it often in his column (most recently this week I believe).

I'm sure many people would benefit from your helpful, practical advice. You could make a lot of difference.

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rpotter28 said
Long time Realtor here, 34 years next month. I have seen a few cycles. I could write a book on it, and maybe I will, but not in this post.

My 2 cents in this thread is, based on my experience, that very few homeowners (not talking investors) have financial hardship because of their initial purchase price/interest rate/ stress test, etc.

The way the system works, any Mortgage Broker worth there salt advises clients in the preliminary meeting to not take on anymore debt and screw up their ratios. So they don't.

Then they move in, lease/buy a new F150, buy new furniture on credit at Leon's, ring up their credit cards at home improvement stores or wherever. Lately, because of rising home values they can get a HELOC if they have been there a few years so they can go on vacation and put in a pool or buy a boat.

This is the problem with cheap money, folks get in over their heads... when short term rates go up.  

Very well said !!! Same thing happened in the US during their financial crisis, just worse down there since people get "bigger tax deductions" when they have a bigger mortgage !!!

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