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Inflation rate creeped up in April
May 17, 2023
9:29 am
The Rock
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Higher savings rates could be on the way. It may not be possible to get inflation to the 2% target without further rate hikes.

May 17, 2023
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Maybe but I doubt it. HISA rates in the chart here (with Motive as an outlier) are already well below yields currently paid by Money Market mutual funds, Cash ETFs and brokerage ISAs, most of which are in the 4.5-4.8% range currently. It is these latter vehicles that would see a boost from a BoC rate increase. Remember that HISA rates are only as competitive as is necessary to attract the level of deposits any given FI needs.

A major contributor to the higher April inflation number was higher mortgage interest rates upon renewal and runaway rent increases. Without the housing component, inflation would have been, I seem to recall, 3.7% rather than 4.4%. The 'pig' continues to move through the 'python' methodically.

May 17, 2023
1:04 pm
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I remember those days when inflation creep up, then the media, wall street, bay street and mtg broker all saying "this was due to energy" and now "mortgage, rent ,etc" this it all BS

I have no idea what BOC will do but those are the fact:

- Average Canadian house price rose to $716,000 in April. an increased of 11%
- April jobs report USA and Canada "surprises" "resilient" double the forecast
- The CPI for April marks a 4.4 per cent rise year over year
- Grocery prices have increased by 9.1 per cent in the year up to April

May 17, 2023
1:55 pm
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The sub-components of CPI provide the sector indicators. Spend some time with those on a month-to-month comparison over the past 12 months to get the trend lines for each of the components. Goods inflation is indeed moderating. Services is not, nor obviously is the housing component.

Food and energy have always been volatile components subject to a lot of seasonal and geo-political vagaries not responsive to, or manageable by, individual central banker monetary policy. That is why BoC et al look at the CPI with and without those components (as I would too).

House prices (and rent) are impacted more by housing demand (immigration -- population growth) and lack of a proper government housing policy to encourage supply than anything else. Our national government has failed miserably at coordinating harmonized housing and immigration policies.

May 18, 2023
10:37 am
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Note: The inflation rate "crept" up.

"Creeped" is what stalkers do.
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May 18, 2023
12:32 pm
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The Rock said

Higher savings rates could be on the way. It may not be possible to get inflation to the 2% target without further rate hikes.  

If only sf-cry

I wouldn't bet the farm on that ... or even a small haystack.

BoC interest rates are but only a 'Part' of what drives SA & GIC rates. When you consider all the moving parts together, SA & GIC rates will continue to slowly go south, regardless of the BoC's next move(s).

My Two Centavos,

    Dean

sf-cool " Live Long, Healthy ... And Prosper! " sf-cool

May 18, 2023
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There is typically a fairly long lag between overnight central bank rate changes and HISA rates during tightening cycles. The relationship is complex but I suspect the probability of HISA rates going up is higher than most here seem to think.

May 19, 2023
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Was reading an article many economists believe the BOC will raise rate .25 June 7th ,hopefully raising GIC and HISA rates. Gee I wish I had a crystal ball, have a few big GIC's coming due on the 5th. I also have some coming due early next year where the rate in my mind was disgusting ,however that was the best at the time 1.95%

May 19, 2023
4:37 am
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mechone said
Was reading an article many economists believe the BOC will raise rate .25 June 7th ,hopefully raising GIC and HISA rates. Gee I wish I had a crystal ball, have a few big GIC's coming due on the 5th. I also have some coming due early next year where the rate in my mind was disgusting ,however that was the best at the time 1.95%  

Not sure if another rate hike will bump savings rate higher, but it will certainly help to stop the slide. My feel is FI simply does not need much new deposits right now, as they remain cautious in expanding their loan portfolio. Think of their rapid hike of GIC rates as an serious overshoot for most of 2022, and now back to reality.

Dont forget banks are only "obligated" to raise their prime rate to satisfy the watchful eye of the Bank of Canada, thats it.

May 19, 2023
5:43 am
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Real HISA rates are still negative except promotions. And thats an aberration. This is typical early on in the tightening cycle but normally corrects over time.

Large banks in particular are supposed to get more competitive later on in the cycle, at least thats what I recall. Of course this cycle may play out differently, who knows?

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