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Can bank issue credit card without me applying?
April 28, 2016
9:08 am
Dennis
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I seems 2 banks are issuing credit cards - BMO Air miles Mastercard and TD Aeroplan Visa. I never have used TD and haven't used BMO for more than decade. I never applied both cards.

I haven't had cards yet but got letter with PIN code and saying I'll getting the card. Strange that both have my current information and it is happening at the same time.

I feel something is wrong.

April 28, 2016
11:24 am
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Yes, I think something is wrong also.
Perhaps I'm wrong but I was under the impression that banks were no longer permitted to issue credit cards to people who had not agreed to receive them.

I would contact them directly and ask about it.

Is it possible your identity has been stolen or compromised?

April 28, 2016
11:47 am
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Loonie said

Is it possible your identity has been stolen or compromised?

That's actually I'm worrying about. I'm contacting them. BMO think it's strange too and ask to come to the branch. Holding for TD.

April 28, 2016
3:05 pm
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It's good that BMO is responding.
Let us know what happens.

April 28, 2016
4:12 pm
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You may also want to request your (free) credit reports from Equifax and TransUnion, see if there's anything else on there you didn't request.

http://www.equifax.com/ecm/can.....stForm.pdf
https://www.transunion.ca/ca/personal/creditreport/consumerdisclosure/mail_en.page

April 28, 2016
5:36 pm
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I have called both banks and both ask me to come to the branch to investigate further. I'll visit soon and will post how it goes.

Thanks for tip for free credit reports. I better do it.

April 28, 2016
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Could this be in any way associated to tax time? Like who did your taxes....how were they mailed or transmitted? All the info is there for an application? Have you verified your tax return has been received by CRA? I know I am being far fetched.....but.....

April 28, 2016
8:04 pm
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Loonie said

Perhaps I'm wrong but I was under the impression that banks were no longer permitted to issue credit cards to people who had not agreed to receive them.

There is a federal prohibition is on unsolicited credit card convenience cheques: FCAC: New rules for credit card cheques now in effect

April 29, 2016
12:21 am
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If you live in Ontario, the Consumer Protection Act (2002) effectively prevents FIs from sending unsolicited credit cards.

"You also can’t be charged for receiving an item or service that you did not request. You can use the item or throw it away."

https://www.ontario.ca/page/your-rights-under-consumer-protection-act

April 29, 2016
10:39 am
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It seems it is Fraud/Identity theft case. BMO advised me to contact Equifax and TransUnion Canada for fraud case.

I'm wandering how it could happen - issuing credit card by somebody else. Also wandering what that somebody could get from this - I have credit card.

Thank for all your information/suggestions.

April 29, 2016
1:35 pm
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I'm sorry to hear of this, Dennis. At least you were able to get on the case quickly and were suspicious.
Perhaps there is a website somewhere that walks people through the steps they need to take in such situations.
You should probably call the credit bureaus immediately. I suppose you need to both get the reports and advise them that your identity has been compromised. Unfortunately, this will make it more difficult for the real "you" to get credit cards, open accounts etc for the net several years.
I believe that the RCMP has a division which is concerned about such cases. The banks will likely advise them of this, as it is in their interests as well to do so.

April 29, 2016
6:10 pm
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Dennis said
…. I'm wandering how it could happen - issuing credit card by somebody else. Also wandering what that somebody could get from this - I have credit card.

Someone who has your information (name, date of birth, address, phone number, occupation, current employer, existing credit card, and so on) could go to the credit card issuer's web site and submit an online application.

Most people are not home when Canada Post delivers the mail during the day. The person was probably going to take the new credit card and PIN notice out of your mailbox before you pick up the mail that day.

April 29, 2016
6:25 pm
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Loonie said

If you live in Ontario, the Consumer Protection Act (2002) effectively prevents FIs from sending unsolicited credit cards.

"You also can’t be charged for receiving an item or service that you did not request. You can use the item or throw it away."

https://www.ontario.ca/page/your-rights-under-consumer-protection-act

That seems to be from Section 13 of the Act:

Unsolicited goods or services: relief from legal obligations

13. (1) Except as provided in this section, a recipient of unsolicited goods or services has no legal obligation in respect of their use or disposal. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 13 (1).

However, there seems to be special consideration for credit cards in Section 68:

Agreement for credit card

68. (1) Despite section 13, a consumer who applies for a credit card without signing an application form or who receives a credit card from a credit card issuer without applying for it shall be deemed to have entered into a credit agreement with the issuer with respect to the card on first using the card. 2002, c. 30, Sched. A, s. 68 (1).

Unsolicited credit cards are definitely not allowed in Québec. This is from Section 120 of their Consumer Protection Act:

120. No person may issue or send a credit card to a consumer unless the consumer has applied for it in writing.

April 30, 2016
10:44 am
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kanaka said

Could this be in any way associated to tax time? Like who did your taxes....how were they mailed or transmitted? All the info is there for an application? Have you verified your tax return has been received by CRA? I know I am being far fetched.....but.....

It probably not with Tax. I report Tax myself (this year using StudioTax) and it happed before I report Tax. Thanks

April 30, 2016
10:47 am
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Loonie said

I'm sorry to hear of this, Dennis. At least you were able to get on the case quickly and were suspicious.
Perhaps there is a website somewhere that walks people through the steps they need to take in such situations.
You should probably call the credit bureaus immediately. I suppose you need to both get the reports and advise them that your identity has been compromised. Unfortunately, this will make it more difficult for the real "you" to get credit cards, open accounts etc for the net several years.
I believe that the RCMP has a division which is concerned about such cases. The banks will likely advise them of this, as it is in their interests as well to do so.

Thanks. I called two credit bureaus - TransUnion and Equifax and also report to Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre( http://www.antifraudcentre-cen.....ex-eng.htm ).

April 30, 2016
10:51 am
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Norman1 said

Dennis said
…. I'm wandering how it could happen - issuing credit card by somebody else. Also wandering what that somebody could get from this - I have credit card.

Someone who has your information (name, date of birth, address, phone number, occupation, current employer, existing credit card, and so on) could go to the credit card issuer's web site and submit an online application.

Most people are not home when Canada Post delivers the mail during the day. The person was probably going to take the new credit card and PIN notice out of your mailbox before you pick up the mail that day.

I live in Condo (it is obvious with address as it has unit #), and probably not easy to steal from mail box. Anyway I better check my mailbox more often for a while. Thanks.

May 4, 2016
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Dennis said

I live in Condo (it is obvious with address as it has unit #), and probably not easy to steal from mail box. Anyway I better check my mailbox more often for a while. Thanks.

That's a good point. Hopefully, it is not actually someone in your household or frequent friend who visits!sf-surprised

I remember years ago reading about a bank customer who was experiencing repeated unauthorized ATM cash withdrawals. His card was not stolen and was in his possession. Bank refused to reimburse him because his card was not stolen and the correct PIN was used each time.

He believed the security of the bank's ATM card system had been cracked. The bank disagreed.

Eventually, he meet with the branch manager. The manager played the recorded video footage of the unauthorized ATM withdrawals. It was his daughter in the videos! sf-surprised

The manager offered to get the police involved. The customer retracted his demands for compensation.

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