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EQB Q2 profit tumbles
August 10, 2022
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August 10, 2022
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cgouimet said
From BNN ... https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/eqb-misses-estimates-as-q2-profit-tumbles-1.1803966  

Guess they now have to keep interest rates lower to get back to profitability.
Who is next?

August 10, 2022
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It is pretty clear from that link why EQB's HISA and longer term GIC rates are where they are at. Mortgage underwriting is expected to cool off after a big one year surge and the large increase in deposit accounts and value may be leaving them with too much funds on that side of the ledger.

I've helped them out by moving out most of my HISA cash to brokerage ISA accounts.

August 10, 2022
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canadian.100 said

Guess they now have to keep interest rates lower to get back to profitability.
Who is next?  

canadian.100 said

Guess they now have to keep interest rates lower to get back to profitability.

Already under way ...

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August 10, 2022
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It seems to me y'all are reading that wrong. From https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/eqb-reports-continued-strong-lending-growth-and-core-earnings-assets-under-management-up-to-45-8-billion-increases-dividend-301602957.html net interest margins are strong and increasing. Profitability in the primary business is increasingly nicely, net of taking some additional credit loss provisions, BUT they expect much lower growth the 2nd half of this year. Hence I suspect having to manage deposit account growth.

I am not an EQB shareholder so have not digested the results in detail but in skimming over it, I see some potential for a stock investment.

August 10, 2022
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Agree, AltaRed, they had some writedowns.

Dividend raised by 7%. I'm not a shareholder.

August 10, 2022
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The main business of raising deposits and lending is profitable.

Looks like they made some market value adjustments to some investments:

  • Severe capital market volatility led to mark-to-market losses of $8.7 million on EQB's strategic investment portfolio. This portfolio was conceived and constructed to enable EQB's subsidiary, Equitable Bank to gain exposure to innovative business models and early-stage technologies that are accretive to Equitable Bank's position as Canada's Challenger Bank
  • EQB expects volatility to continue in the second half of 2022, but this does not reflect the underlying strategic value of these investments

Probably invested capital into some startup fintech companies and needed to adjust the valuations closer to current market valuations.

August 10, 2022
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EQB is a strong advocate of Open Banking as part of its "Challenger Bank" persona. It stands to reason some of this early stage and innovative fintech technology will be written down from time to time. If anything, it is a positive sign EQB is putting its money where its mouth is and being supposedly realistic about valuations.

The early posts in this thread appear to be only looking at EQB from a depositor perspective rather than EQB as a company. I think I will take a harder look at this company from a shareholder perspective.

August 10, 2022
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AltaRed said

EQB is a strong advocate of Open Banking as part of its "Challenger Bank" persona. It stands to reason some of this early stage and innovative fintech technology will be written down from time to time. If anything, it is a positive sign EQB is putting its money where its mouth is and being supposedly realistic about valuations.

The early posts in this thread appear to be only looking at EQB from a depositor perspective rather than EQB as a company. I think I will take a harder look at this company from a shareholder perspective.  

From this time last year, EQB's stock is Down ~ 28%. This just might be a
good entry point ❗

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August 10, 2022
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Yes, I looked at the 5 year chart when I posted previously. Good be good entry point. I have a stock with a capital loss that I could sell to partially offset a large capital gain from the sale of another stock earlier this year. Might be a good way to make this work.

August 10, 2022
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August 10, 2022
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Letting your stock slip 28% because you went overboard and premature with fintech is not a sign of good management IMO.
You're not a "Challenger Bank" when others offer better rates than you do and also joint GICs, RIFs and more helpful phone reps.
They need to "challenge" themselves. New management would be a start.
I have only a dollar or two at EQ in any form.

When HCG had their crisis, I bought more (insured) GICs from Oaken. I wouldn't do this with EQ for several reasons not limited to rates.

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