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EQ One yr. GIC up to 5.25% this morning
June 24, 2023
10:22 am
Alexandra
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Yesterday I purchased a small $5K GIC for 15 months @5.2% (same rate as the one year). Probably would have put in one yr @ 5.25% if I'd have known. Hindsight.
Not worth asking them to change it.

June 24, 2023
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It seems like EQ is making changes to its rates on weekends more often.

This is worth keeping in mind for GIC purchase scheduling. Unlike other banks and the stock market, EQ's market moves do not occur on a Monday-Friday timing.

June 24, 2023
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Alexandra said
Yesterday I purchased a small $5K GIC for 15 months @5.2% (same rate as the one year). Probably would have put in one yr @ 5.25% if I'd have known. Hindsight.
Not worth asking them to change it.  

You can log in today and cancel the purchase. A day of interest will be sacrificed:

Option to Cancel GIC Purchase

You may cancel your purchase of an EQ Bank GIC within one day after the Effective Date without penalty and you will be entitled to a refund of all principal invested. You will not receive a payment of interest. Please sign into Online or Mobile Banking to cancel your purchase of a GIC within the time period prescribed.

June 24, 2023
1:19 pm
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Norman1 said

You can log in today and cancel the purchase. A day of interest will be sacrificed:

Option to Cancel GIC Purchase

You may cancel your purchase of an EQ Bank GIC within one day after the Effective Date without penalty and you will be entitled to a refund of all principal invested. You will not receive a payment of interest. Please sign into Online or Mobile Banking to cancel your purchase of a GIC within the time period prescribed.

  

Thanks Norman!! I did go on and sure enough I could cancel my GIC purchase yesterday. The difference between the 5.25% and the 5.2% is only a couple of dollars so I decided to just leave it. After I purchased the $5K GIC from them yesterday, I printed off the "certificate" and put it in my EQ file. Also changed spread sheet etc. so what the heck. ha ha. I have another GIC coming due with them in July, so maybe I'll get the 1yr at that rate then. But thanks again for looking out for me. sf-smile

June 25, 2023
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Alexandra said

Thanks Norman!! I did go on and sure enough I could cancel my GIC purchase yesterday. The difference between the 5.25% and the 5.2% is only a couple of dollars so I decided to just leave it. After I purchased the $5K GIC from them yesterday, I printed off the "certificate" and put it in my EQ file. Also changed spread sheet etc. so what the heck. ha ha. I have another GIC coming due with them in July, so maybe I'll get the 1yr at that rate then. But thanks again for looking out for me. sf-smile  

By my calcs, that .05% gain on the GIC is worth $2.50 on that $5k GIC. But the loss of interest for closing and reopening is $0.71/day so, the "huge" gain disappears quickly ...

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June 25, 2023
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cgouimet said

By my calcs, that .05% gain on the GIC is worth $2.50 on that $5k GIC. But the loss of interest for closing and reopening is $0.71/day so, the "huge" gain disappears quickly ...  

Yes, that is true as I said in my post under Norman 1's #4 post. However, I'm glad that he did mention that as I have now noted with my EQ stuff that I have the option to cancel up until the next day. I purchased the GIC in the a.m. and after reading Norman's comments in the afternoon the next day (yesterday), I was still able to cancel even though it was past a 24 hour period. That particular GIC was a smaller new purchase but I do have larger ones maturing with them in July and Aug of this year.

June 25, 2023
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EQ Bank still allows one business day, instead of one calendar day, to cancel, according to this text at the bottom of the confirmation page:

You may cancel your purchase up to 1 business day after the effective date of your GIC without penalty.

Please call 1-844-… if you would like more information

So, GIC purchases on a Friday have more time. sf-laugh

June 25, 2023
9:34 am
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Norman1 said
EQ Bank still allows one business day, instead of one calendar day, to cancel, according to this text at the bottom of the confirmation page:

You may cancel your purchase up to 1 business day after the effective date of your GIC without penalty.

Please call 1-844-… if you would like more information

So, GIC purchases on a Friday have more time. sf-laugh  

When coupled with EQ's recent practice of raising GIC rates on a Saturday, Friday does seem like a prime time to put in a GIC purchase with this bank.

June 25, 2023
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Wait a minute - how does this square with the 10-day cancellation rule on GIC purchases? Is that only on auto-renewals, or province-differentiated?
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June 25, 2023
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RetirEd said
Wait a minute - how does this square with the 10-day cancellation rule on GIC purchases? Is that only on auto-renewals, or province-differentiated?
RetirEd  

I believe the 10 day cancellation rule is only for automatic renewals of an existing GIC. Some banks do not have a maturity instruction on initial purchase. So you basically have to phone them usually within 30 days of maturity with instructions.

June 25, 2023
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That's correct. The 10-day cancellation at federally-regulated financial institutions only applies to automatic renewals:

Your right to cancel an automatic renewal
A federally regulated financial institution may automatically reinvest your funds at the original investment’s end date. You can cancel this new investment within 10 business days of the start of the new term. If you’re in this situation, check the terms and conditions of your original agreement. You can also contact them for details on how to cancel the product.

Your right to information before renewal or rollover
Banks must disclose certain information about any renewal or rollover of a product or service they may provide to you.

If the product or service is for a term of more than 30 days, they’ll disclose the information:

  • 21 days before the last day of the term, and
  • 5 days before the last day of the term

For a product or service with a term of 30 days or less, they’ll disclose the information:

  • 5 days before the last day of the term

That's moot with EQ Bank as its GIC's don't auto renew:

Treatment at Maturity

On the Maturity Date, the principal and any accrued interest on your investment that has not already been paid to you will be deposited to the Savings Plus Account from which your initial investment was funded or, in the alternative and in our sole discretion, another account you have with EQ Bank. In the case of a GIC purchased within your RSP Plan or your EQ Bank TFSA, the principal and any accrued interest on your investment will be deposited to your savings account with your RSP Plan or EQ Bank TFSA, as applicable.

June 27, 2023
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Ah, thanks. I guess the 10-day provision on some first-time deposits I've made was institution-specific.
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June 27, 2023
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GIC issuers are free to go beyond the minimum.

BC credit union Coast Capital Savings allows 21 days to cancel in their GIC agreement:

6. Cancellation – You may cancel your purchase of a GIC by notifying us within twenty-one (21) days of the Start Date. If the GIC has been automatically renewed, you may cancel the renewal by notifying us within twenty-one (21) days following the renewal Start Date. In these events, your principal will be returned, but no interest will be paid to you. To initiate a cancellation request, please contact the Advice Centre at 1.888… or make the request in person at a branch.

June 28, 2023
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Hi. I'm sitting on 25 grand in my HISA account at the moment. Going to take out a one year GIC. I was thinking of waiting until the BOC meets again on July 12. The consensus is that the rate will go up again.

I think it's wise to wait for 2 weeks to see if the 5.25 GIC interest rate goes up again.

What do you think?

June 28, 2023
12:46 pm
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pianoman8849 said
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What do you think?  

I had been planning to buy a 1 year GIC at EQ, but when Tangerine came out with an 18 month GIC at 5.50%, I switched gears. 25 basis points is enough of a motivator for me, and while other FIs could catch up by the next BoC rate hike, I'd rather start collecting more interest sooner, rather than later.

June 28, 2023
2:07 pm
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pianoman8849 said
I think it's wise to wait for 2 weeks to see if the 5.25 GIC interest rate goes up again.

What do you think?  

With so many other FI offering the same rate or better, you are probably okay to wait. Just realize that the BoC decision is in 2 weeks and it may take another 2 weeks for rates to change. That's an entire month for your funds to sit in limbo. Just make sure they aren't sitting in an account with 0.1% interest. That is opportunity cost lost, too.

June 28, 2023
3:49 pm
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No, it's sitting in the 2.5 HISA so waiting a few weeks shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the advice..

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