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August 8, 2022
12:45 pm
Benjames35
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Rate increase effective August 8, 2022

HISA 2.40%
TFSA 2.40%

August 8, 2022
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I had almost given up hope and was thinking of closing my account. Guess I'll hold off for now.

August 8, 2022
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I did give up hope and just recently moved everything to Motive, for now anyways.

August 8, 2022
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Canadian Tire Bank is reverting to its "want deposits mode". Canadian Tire Bank 4.62% 5 year GIC rate is the highest rate at TD WebBroker today

August 9, 2022
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Greedy Guy said
Canadian Tire Bank is reverting to its "want deposits mode". Canadian Tire Bank 4.62% 5 year GIC rate is the highest rate at TD WebBroker today  

Yeah. May be the response to their GICs hasn't been too great. 4.62%, while still high, isn't terribly appealing for a 5-year in current climate, at least to me.

August 9, 2022
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frencols said

Yeah. May be the response to their GICs hasn't been too great. 4.62%, while still high, isn't terribly appealing for a 5-year in current climate, at least to me.  

For someone with a TD brokerage RSP account, a 4.62% 5-year GIC is slightly attractive. An attractive non-sheltered 5-year GIC needs to be at least 5.0%

August 9, 2022
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Greedy Guy said
An attractive non-sheltered 5-year GIC needs to be at least 5.0%  

For the 5yr closer to the rate of inflation at least 7%
There is no telling what they will do next.

August 10, 2022
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I won't go into details again but Canadian Tire will never see another penny of my money.

Moving it out was a pain in the ASS

Moving significant funds has significant pitfalls

November 24, 2022
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Effective November 24, 2022, the Annual Interest Rate for Canadian Tire High Interest Savings Accounts & Canadian Tire Tax Free High Interest Savings Accounts has increased to 3.00%

November 24, 2022
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Thanks, hwyc, not a bad rate for a HISA. Good illustration of why to keep empty accounts open, you never know what comes along.
https://www.ctfs.com/content/ctfs/en/retailbanking/rates.html#:~:text=Great%20News%3A%20Effective%20November%2024,Accounts%20has%20increased%20to%203.00%25.

November 24, 2022
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hwyc said
Effective November 24, 2022, the Annual Interest Rate for Canadian Tire High Interest Savings Accounts & Canadian Tire Tax Free High Interest Savings Accounts has increased to 3.00%  

Based on economic forecasts lately, I am thinking they will need more funds as Credit Card balance payments might lag for a while. So I predict their rate will go up from here.

November 25, 2022
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rpotter28 said

Based on economic forecasts lately, I am thinking they will need more funds as Credit Card balance payments might lag for a while. So I predict their rate will go up from here.  

Interesting, could be a factor I guess. Also 9 other banks already pay 3% or more, with Motive having been there for over four months. So it's questionable how much new money they will get, without raising to be closer to 'class leading'.

The main accomplishment of almost all organized protests is to
annoy people who are not in them.

August 12, 2023
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Effective August 9, 2023, the Annual Interest Rate for Canadian Tire High Interest Savings Accounts & Canadian Tire Tax Free High Interest Savings Accounts has increased to 3.50% (was 3.00%).

August 13, 2023
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The HISA and TFSA charts need to be updated in that case. They still show 3.0%.

August 13, 2023
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leigh said
The HISA and TFSA charts need to be updated in that case. They still show 3.0%.  

Done! Thanks.

October 13, 2023
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HISA & TFSA is 3.70% effective Oct 13 (was 3.50%).

October 13, 2023
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hwyc said
HISA & TFSA is 3.70% effective Oct 13 (was 3.50%).  

Nice! Canadian Tire Bank looks a lot more attractive to me, with the demise of the superior Old Hubert Financial platform and the introduction of the New Hubert Financial (still not sure which online banking platform it is; it's neither MemberDirect nor Forge, so they've obviously moved away from Central 1 Credit Union's software products). Sure, linking accounts still requires a PAD form and a void cheque or void cheque form, but they have a "just works" online banking system and competitive rates. It's potentially a great virtual bank to add if one is looking to uncomplicate their banking with fewer FIs.

Potential set up I'm considering:
- Tangerine (day-to-day banking, personal line of credit, tertiary credit card, and some savings, when offered a promo rate)
- DYN6004 and DYN3075 at Scotia iTRADE (main savings)
- EQ Bank
- Canadian Tire Bank (alternate HISA and GIC, direct with issuer)
- Scotia iTRADE (investments)
- Scotiabank (secondary credit card and personal line of credit)
- American Express SimplyCash credit card

Then close:
- Coast Capital Savings Federal Credit Union
- Hubert Financial
- Outlook Financial

Cheers,
Doug

October 13, 2023
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I would definitely consider adding Motive into your mix. They have the best non-promo HISA rate, customizable GIC's with good rates, and free chequing account with Exchange ATM card (which allows free transactions at most credit union ATMs), and are also CDIC covered. Setting up is a bit clunky but it is smooth sailing after that.

October 14, 2023
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everhopeful said
I would definitely consider adding Motive into your mix. They have the best non-promo HISA rate, customizable GIC's with good rates, and free chequing account with Exchange ATM card (which allows free transactions at most credit union ATMs), and are also CDIC covered. Setting up is a bit clunky but it is smooth sailing after that.  

Thanks. I want to like Motive Financial, but they fail several key criteria, including:
* Leaderless operation, which provides uncertainty as to whether CWB will continue the operation on a go-forward business or sunset it/grandfather it à la Laurentian Bank did with LBC Digital
* Woefully insufficient staffing resources (< 10 staff) to manage the number of clients they have (estimated at 20,000 nationwide) and deposits (estimated at between $700-900 million)

Their products and marketing are good, and their HISA deposit rate is competitive, but not meaningfully moreso than, say, Canadian Tire Bank and certainly not the ISAs and HISA ETFs currently on offer. Similarly, GIC rates are competitive, but if I can get the same or better consolidated within a Scotia iTRADE account, including from Canadian Western Bank, why not?

The Exchange ATM network is still a good surcharge-free ATM network, and I agree my potential future set up may be missing that, though I will have surcharge-free ATM withdrawals and deposit access at Scotiabank ATMs with my Tangerine and Scotiabank accounts and will have effectively surcharge-free access to Canada's largest effectively surcharge-free ATM network in EQ Bank, with the EQ Bank Card, with over 20,000+ Interac ATM network ATMs. Should I require Exchange ATM access, I'd probably honestly be more inclined to go with Alterna Bank, which is staffed to scale with 7-day telephone service (versus 5-day "bankers' hours" telephone service at Motive Financial) and which has the added benefit of unofficial "back-door" Acculink ATM access, or maybe First West Credit Union's Valley First division for a no monthly fee USD chequing account paired with a no-fee chequing account.

Cheers,
Doug

October 14, 2023
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Doug said
* Leaderless operation, which provides uncertainty as to whether CWB will continue the operation on a go-forward business or sunset it/grandfather it à la Laurentian Bank did with LBC Digital
* Woefully insufficient staffing resources (< 10 staff) to manage the number of clients they have (estimated at 20,000 nationwide) and deposits (estimated at between $700-900 million)

Yikes, maybe I should do my research on institutions, that doesn't sound promising at all. If their backend system crumbles are my funds with them still secure?

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