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Your opinions please. Elderly 70 and over. Paper Bills and Paper Financial Statements
October 13, 2025
8:47 am
doug
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Alexandra said
"Canada Post should be privatized" Agree ..... sick of the continual strikes.

I wish liquor stores were privatized as well. So silly. The employees working at private liquor stores here in B.C. get paid less and do more. Basically two jobs at the liquor stores....stock shelves and be on the cash register. Oh well, as Dean says,
"That's my two pennies"sf-kiss  

Do we need that many liquor stores honestly? We are oversupplied in liquor stores. As private liquor stores apply for approval to sell their licenses or relocate, government should deny them. We have the ability to reduce private liquor store proliferation by license attrition. sf-cool

October 13, 2025
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I'm not elderly yet and I know my way around a computer but I prefer to get bills and bank statements on paper if it's at no cost.

October 13, 2025
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ertyu said

That's one other thing I forgot to mention. I don't consistently get all notifications for all electronics documents, some are never delivered, some get missed once in a while. I need to set reminders to download documents and to make payments for those that aren't automated.  

That is not a problem with digital documents. That is a problem with the lack of bank regulation. Government can, and should, bring in more consumer-friendly banking sector regulations. Problem solved. sf-cool

FWIW, as a bank shareholder, I'm crying out for more regulation of banks in which I hold shares, as, although there's a cost, in the long-term, it creates a much healthier banking system. sf-cool

October 13, 2025
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itsme said
I'm not elderly yet and I know my way around a computer but I prefer to get bills and banks statements on paper if it's at no cost.  

That's nice. You'd better get on board, as that option will soon not be available. 😉

October 13, 2025
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I don't have to get on board, if I get the option of free paper statements that's what I choose.

October 13, 2025
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itsme said
I'm not elderly yet and I know my way around a computer but I prefer to get bills and bank statements on paper if it's at no cost.  

One of the reasons I switched to electronic billings and statements because at least once in while you want to get rid of the old ones, something I didn't want put in the garbage or recycle bin until it was shredded; tedious, time consuming and noisy. One keystroke lets you get rid of an electronic or online document, quite and effortless ...

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October 13, 2025
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AltaRed: I have to remember to check my E-mail to get those online statements and notifications. And when my ISP is down, or gone, or mailbox full, I don't get them. E-mail is unreliable and unpredictable. MUCH more so than Canada Post service. (I don't have a smartphone)

Mordko: Just about all government services are paid for by many taxpayers for the benefit of a few. Same with insurance, or any widely-needed service.

Doug: That's what Canada Post was before the creation of Canada Post Corporation and it was widely reported as "privatization," as with all crown corporations.

employees working at private liquor stores here in B.C. get paid less and do more.

Is that a good thing for our society? More income inequality?

RetirEd

October 13, 2025
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RetirEd said

Mordko: Just about all government services are paid for by many taxpayers for the benefit of a few. Same with insurance, or any widely-needed service.

Quite. And the point is that this particular service is getting more and more expensive while being of any use to fewer and fewer people and that private companies are perfectly capable of providing this service at no cost to others. And that there are far higher priorities for out tax dollars.

October 13, 2025
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RetirEd said
AltaRed: I have to remember to check my E-mail to get those online statements and notifications. And when my ISP is down, or gone, or mailbox full, I don't get them. E-mail is unreliable and unpredictable. MUCH more so than Canada Post service. (I don't have a smartphone)

We use Cogeco Internet. 2 hours/year without Internet would be a stretch here.

We use Gmail. It's never skip a beat in years for us. We're not very disciplined at maintaining those Gmail mailboxes yet we're at 25% capacity.

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October 13, 2025
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cgouimet said

RetirEd said
AltaRed: I have to remember to check my E-mail to get those online statements and notifications. And when my ISP is down, or gone, or mailbox full, I don't get them. E-mail is unreliable and unpredictable. MUCH more so than Canada Post service. (I don't have a smartphone)

We use Cogeco Internet. 2 hours/year without Internet would be a stretch here.

We use Gmail. It's never skip a beat in years for us. We're not very disciplined at maintaining those Gmail mailboxes yet we're at 25% capacity.  

Yes, the assertion that email is less reliable than Canada Post is counter factual. It's impressive that anyone is talking about CPs reliability when national strikes are being replaced by rotating strikes, usually for holiday season; let alone ignoring routine delivery problems when CP is supposed to be working.

October 13, 2025
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mordko said

Yes, the assertion that email is less reliable than Canada Post is counter factual. It's impressive that anyone is talking about CPs reliability when national strikes are being replaced by rotating strikes, usually for holiday season; let alone ignoring routine delivery problems when CP is supposed to be working.  

It demonstrates the extent of irrational denial that will likely continue until the last gasping breath.

However, reliable internet is not yet available to every corner of Canada so there will need to be what I'd call 'hard copy' service until reliable internet occurs in a cost effective way (Starlink and others like Rogers Satellite not being cost effective yet).

October 13, 2025
12:26 pm
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Having been to remote camps and reserves in NW Territories, I doubt there are populated centres without access to email.

Broadband is different; it's available to 96% of Canadians based on latest stats and the federal government projects that by 2026, 98.6% of Canadian households will have access to reliable high-speed Internet.

October 13, 2025
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RetirEd said

employees working at private liquor stores here in B.C. get paid less and do more.

Is that a good thing for our society? More income inequality?  

Yes, it is a good thing to improve productivity. The very definition of productivity is to do more with the same level of resources.

October 13, 2025
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Productivity is simply GDP per capita and thus higher GDP generated at the least cost/hr is a good thing. Unfortunately, a lot of the time it means exploitation at low wages but that is far better for society than lower output per higher wage per hour.

If we really wanted to have highly productive liquor stores, they would be highly automated with zero employees except for a few well trained technicians to keep the automation up and running.

Too many Canadians, including politicians, seem to think well paid jobs are the secret sauce to prosperity, but they fail to recognize that only matters if those jobs are generating high output/GDP. Most civil servants fail the productivity test in spades. Canada continues to slide relative to its OECD peers.

October 14, 2025
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Coming to a neighbourhood near you.

Self- serve liquor stores. All you need is a vending machine and a scanner to verify age.

Proving age is not a problem because kids will give an over 20 year old hobo/bum a couple of bucks to go in the liquor store to buy the Crown Royal.

October 14, 2025
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COIN said
Coming to a neighbourhood near you.

Self- serve liquor stores. All you need is a vending machine and a scanner to verify age.

Proving age is not a problem because kids will give an over 20 year old hobo/bum a couple of bucks to go in the liquor store to buy the Crown Royal.  

Underage Canadians don’t seem to have any trouble finding alcohol to drink: https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/files/2019-09/CCSA-Canadian-Drug-Summary-Alcohol-2019-en.pdf. Not sure why they can’t hire a “hobo” to buy from LCBO using your scenario.

More generally, Canadians drink twice as much as Australians (figure 6). Australians don’t have government selling them alcohol, so this excuse does not make much sense to me.

October 15, 2025
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HermanH:

RetirEd said
employees working at private liquor stores here in B.C. get paid less and do more.
Is that a good thing for our society? More income inequality?

Yes, it is a good thing to improve productivity. The very definition of productivity is to do more with the same level of resources.

Those employees are being asked to do more without any benefit from the improved productivity. Their work lives are dominated by fear of losing the job.

RetirEd

October 15, 2025
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Those employees are being asked to do more without any benefit from the improved productivity. Their work lives are dominated by fear of losing the job.

RetirEd: So what? How is that any different than any working person? That's how I felt during my whole career.

October 15, 2025
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pwm said
Those employees are being asked to do more without any benefit from the improved productivity. Their work lives are dominated by fear of losing the job.

RetirEd: So what? How is that any different than any working person? That's how I felt during my whole career.  

Increased productivity would mean increased GDP which would help keep our fiscal deficit lower than it might otherwise be, pay for our health and education, infrastructure and any number of other services such as OAS. Productivity is the very essence of GDP per capita.

What we really need is employers and employees alike to work towards more automation, innovation, and skill upgrades in our workforce. Why do we still stick build houses? Why do we have letter carriers walking envelopes door to door? Why do some municipalities still have conventional garbage pickup (bins hoisted by people into trucks instead of automated loaders)? There are millions of unskilled jobs that should not exist, and instead require people to have a productive skill to get a pay cheque.

October 15, 2025
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AltaRed said
What we really need is employers and employees alike to work towards more automation,

Not to worry. Soon it will be ONE CEO per company as everything will be done by AI.
Government will provide food, clothing and place to live for bare survival; your obligation will be to provide internal organs as required to CEOs, zillionaires, influencers, celebrities and other scumbags.
Happy now?

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