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Yet Another Example Of "The Dark Side" Of AI :-(
July 11, 2025
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Something new, at least to me . . .

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July 11, 2025
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What really scared me was a claim that malware could infect your computer via e-mail received, even if the mail is not opened or read by the recipient.

Did not hear anything more about it, so maybe it was a false claim.

July 11, 2025
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Dean said
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Something new, at least to me . . .

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Dean  

Get those fake texts daily, also fake job recruiting.
The best one's are the plain text ones that use your name, and make it seem like a friend is texting you. So then if you reply, they hook in lonely hearts.

It's not surprising when it's being done from offshore, they are trying to land a whale, and the criminals know they cannot be caught. It's probably the quickest way to make money for these offshore crooks, no risk to them.

July 11, 2025
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HermanH said
What really scared me was a claim that malware could infect your computer via e-mail received, even if the mail is not opened or read by the recipient.

Did not hear anything more about it, so maybe it was a false claim.  

It used to be possible 20 years ago but modern email clients addressed that vulnerability. So you are good.

July 11, 2025
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mordko said It used to be possible 20 years ago but modern email clients addressed that vulnerability. So you are good.  

It was much more recent than 20 years ago, but it is still good to know that that particular vulnerability has been closed.

July 11, 2025
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Perhaps the safest thing to do these days, is to take your Bitcoins and bury them in the backyard.

July 12, 2025
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Thanks for the chuckle, InterestThis ⬆️ sf-laugh

A good Vid & Article on Tips to spot AI Fakes:

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Take Notes, eh sf-smile

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July 12, 2025
3:49 pm
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Dean: I agree that there's no security in uninsured investments, private or otherwise. But anyone who approaches you with an offer to take your money is probably to be avoided. Or at least thoroughly investigated.

I am not aware of any way to abuse unopened E-mails. I will also mention that most E-mail software allows an option to "open as text," so that no links, java or the likes can be triggered.

My experience with text spam is that each report to SPAM triggers a canned text asking for info about the message being reported, even if one has already reported all those details. Sloppy.

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October 8, 2025
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Not AI ... but still some 'Very Convincing' Scams . . .

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Be Careful out there❗

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October 8, 2025
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Opening E-mails can STILL do damage unless you take the precaution to Open as Text or have an E-mail scanning antivirus. I'm not aware of any mail provider that can stop e-mail attacks other than those they know about and are watching for.

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October 8, 2025
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Good points ⬆️

But as we know, there are New email scams being generated every day.

We Can't Be Too Careful sf-confused

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October 8, 2025
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Dean said
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Good points ⬆️

But as we know, there are New email scams being generated every day.

We Can't Be Too Careful sf-confused

    Dean

  

It is time to switch to pen or pencil, use clean sheet of paper, envelope, lick stamps and swear at mailmen when they go on strike.
Or grab your gold, move to Nunavut and live happily ever after...

October 9, 2025
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CAD: Well, many Canada Post stamps are peel-and-stick these days. No licking required. sf-smile

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October 9, 2025
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CAD: Well, many Canada Post stamps are peel-and-stick these days. No licking required. sf-smile  

Junkies LOVE Canadian stamps as they can get high licking all that glue when other drugs are in short supply; plus they get a hearty meal chewing and swallowing them.

October 9, 2025
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RetirEd said

CAD: Well, many Canada Post stamps are peel-and-stick these days. No licking required. sf-smile  

    LOL ⬆️ sf-laugh

Those old CP 'Licker' stamps went the way of the Dodo Bird, 'Several' years ago.

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October 11, 2025
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When a Canada Post employee applies stamps at an outlet, they are "lickers" - though they usually have a sponge or wet-roller to do the moistening.

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October 11, 2025
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Well, it looks like I stand corrected ⬆️

My only excuse is, I haven't been in a PO in well over 10 years ... LOL sf-laugh

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October 17, 2025
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The title of this thread prompts me to mention an example of a different sort of AI deception I encountered yesterday and today...

In the last few days I have had several calls from unrecognized numbers with the 604 (BC) area code. I ignore most of those, but this time I have answered twice. I heard several seconds of silence, then followed by a cheery woman's voice. She introduces herself as "Wendy," and says she's calling from a medical insurance organization in Miami that can help me choose the right additional insurance plan. I hear background noises that make it sound as though she is in a call centre.

The first thing she says after the introduction is, "We assume you already have the basic coverage, is that correct?"

Both times I felt it was a bit strange or weird, so I ignored her question, but asked if she was a real person or an AI voice. She came back with her medical insurance pitch and re-asked her question. I did not answer, but asked what part of Miami she was in, to see what she'd do. On both calls "she" gave up and said "We'll need to discuss this at a later time. Goodbye."

I went to Perplexity, currently my first search engine these days, to ask about such calls. I learned what I suspect some of you already know: that calls like those are AI-created calls, and the goal may be to harvest one's voice, especially having you say the words "yes" or "OK" or "agreed," etc. With only a few seconds of our voices, AI can create speech that sounds like us, and use the new persona they've created to pretend to be us and get through the voice verification systems some financial and other services are now using.

It was a strange experience, and I'm pleased to have learned about the attempted deception. Had I not been suspicious from the start (because I am not eligible for a health plan from a provider in the US) I might well have played along into her script and fed them voice clips I could never get back. (Unfortunately, for all I know, they're happy with, and could use for nefarious purposes, the bits I did say in my brief bantering before the call ended.)

My wife simply NEVER answers unknown numbers on our phone. She's smarter than I am.

October 18, 2025
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ritawije said
1. and the goal may be to harvest one's voice, especially having you say the words "yes" or "OK" or "agreed," etc. With only a few seconds of our voices, AI can create speech that sounds like us, and use the new persona they've created to pretend to be us and get through the voice verification systems some financial and other services are now using.

2. My wife simply NEVER answers unknown numbers on our phone. She's smarter than I am.  

I did mention that before and personally if I have to answer unknown to me call I pinch my nose and stuff anything into my mouth to change voice. Or just mumble...
A year or so ago we got call from 'our bank' regarding some overdue or whatever. Voice was IDENTICAL as voice when you call official bank's number (voice telling you about services, etc. while you wait for an agent). Identical! I did record both voices, compared them in sound editing software and yes: identical. Of course number offered to call had nothing to do with my bank...

2. Rule of the house: is somebody wants us, leave a message. It could be tricky as some medical institutions have 'unknow' or similar showing on a screen but then we apply rule #1.

Be prepared for a massive fraud and scams galore.

October 18, 2025
11:57 am
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I can't understand why anyone went ahead with voice recognition systems when voice recording or spoofing techniques were already widely available.

A hint: I have noted that scam and spam calls that switch from silence to voice with a thin "plink" sound like picking a guitar on the wrong side of the bridge always mark a call centre.

We should at least be grateful that the fraud calls have pretty much put real telemarketers out of business! Everyone's just going to assume they're scamscum.

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