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On The Hook For $174K Fraud Loss ! :-(
December 3, 2025
6:44 pm
Warwick111
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Pythagoras said

I agree. If a bank clears a fraudulent cheque that was deposited in the account without the owner's knowledge, the responsibility lies with the bank, not the account owner.  

Totally agreed. Access Credit Union did the right thing to reimburse the victim while Steinbach Credit Union denied responsibility and blamed the victim.

December 3, 2025
8:42 pm
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Another reason its not a terrible thing that Hubert is phone only transactions (they are part of the same Access CU in the article). Glad they helped the lady out.

It would be debateable who is responsible if payments are made under a compromised login, but no one should ever be held responsible for fraudulent deposits to their account (especially cheques)... does Steinbach CU not have a hold policy?

One thing that I think might help would be having a small floor limit for bill payments and e-transfers (maybe $500-1000 per month each recipent)... which could be raised by somehow authorizing recipients with the FI via 2FA or other means. It would allow a lot of regular bills and small e-transfers (one time things like flea markets, food trucks, etc) to take place without a lot of hassle, but would prevent these bad guys from moving a lot of money fast if they do hack in.

December 3, 2025
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smayer97 said
This!

People are lulled into believing that SMS 2FA is about security... it is not. It is about tying your activity to your phone for better isolation and identification linked to a more unique identifier, your cell #. It is about tracking.

Consider using your computer instead. Not perfrect but more control, more options to protect yourself, less vulnerability.  

What people are lulled into believing is that their virus protection will keep them safe. I use a tablet dedicated for online banking and phone for verification. I would not use my computer for banking.

December 4, 2025
4:24 am
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Sask. retiree warns others after losing $3K to crypto fraud using AI video of prime minister

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/prime-minister-mark-carney-ai-cryptocurrency-scam-prince-albert-sask-9.6975464

December 4, 2025
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mordko said
This reminds me to close accounts I am not using. Having accounts with $10 balances carries outsized risks.  

Wise recommendation. Also, logging into each of accounts (that allow deposits by cheque) daily to check their balance will defeat this type of fraud.
Do not rely on email notifications of account balance change, if your computer was compromised fraudsters can intercept these emails and delete them.
Ideally, if one uses home PC (desktop, laptop, etc.) for banking, they should use smartphone with preinstalled FI apps to login daily and check accounts balance. It is unlikely to have both devices compromised same time.

For that same reason, configure SMS delivery for 2FA codes, instead of email.

December 4, 2025
8:57 am
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davidgeorge said

Sask. retiree warns others after losing $3K to crypto fraud using AI video of prime minister

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/prime-minister-mark-carney-ai-cryptocurrency-scam-prince-albert-sask-9.6975464

I've also seen similar AI fake ads like that ⬆️ (with our PM) on FaceBook.

To most people, those ads are obviously Fake ... but to some others, they can appear Real & Legit ... and then the Damage is Done. sf-confused

Their targets are the Young and the Old ... and the Naive and Gullible.

    Dean

sf-cool " Live Long, Healthy ... And Prosper! " sf-cool

December 4, 2025
11:20 am
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My VanCity statements always carry a note with my cheque images stating that cheques being listed in the statements does not necessarily mean they have/will be honored.

Scam reports always indicate that even cheques "cleared" may be back-charged weeks later. That's how the overpayment scam works: someone sends you a cheque for more than what is owed and asks for the extra back. Later, the original cheque bounces. Particularly common with cheques from Africa and work-from-home scams.

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December 4, 2025
12:30 pm
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Dean said

davidgeorge said

Sask. retiree warns others after losing $3K to crypto fraud using AI video of prime minister

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/prime-minister-mark-carney-ai-cryptocurrency-scam-prince-albert-sask-9.6975464

I've also seen similar AI fake ads like that ⬆️ (with our PM) on FaceBook.

To most people, those ads are obviously Fake ... but to some others, they can appear Real & Legit ... and then the Damage is Done. sf-confused

Their targets are the Young and the Old ... and the Naive and Gullible.

    Dean

  

A relatively small sum spent; a valuable lesson learnt.

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