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ON, AB, & SK plan for new pipelines
July 23, 2025
10:44 pm
HermanH
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Ontario, Alberta and Sask. push plan for new pipelines, railways to connect Canada

https://globalnews.ca/news/11298003/ontario-alberta-pipeline-study-mou-sask/

Aren't they missing an important component, say, like a province (MB) in between?

What am I missing? How can they even bother to sign something without the missing piece?

July 24, 2025
7:56 am
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It is an agreement to study some new pipelines and railways. It's not an agreement to build them:

On Tuesday, Ontario and Alberta added Saskatchewan to an agreement signed a couple of weeks ago, specifically to explore trade and plan pipelines and new rail infrastructure.

That plan, outlined in a memorandum of understanding, is to work together to study a potential east-west pipeline made with domestically produced steel to connect to the not-yet-built James Bay deep-sea port in Ontario.

July 24, 2025
8:14 am
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Can ignore all this talk, they'll never get built, in my opinion.

July 24, 2025
8:37 am
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Definitely possible that the study will conclude that the new pipeline or railway would not be feasible, economically or otherwise.

It is good that people are thinking about east-west trade with other Canadian provinces. It was an easy way out to just trade across a southern provincial border with the US.

July 24, 2025
8:54 am
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Bill said

Can ignore all this talk, they'll never get built, in my opinion.

Back in the day (early 1950s), they said that ⬆️ Exact Same Thing
about the TCP.

Yet there it is . . .

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'Never Say Never'❗

    Dean

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July 24, 2025
10:12 am
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Manitoba's provincial Prime Minister, Wab Kinew, is of aboriginal descent, and aboriginal descendants are an important part of his political base. I would expect he'll not sign onto any pro-pipeline agreements until he gets a good feeling of support in that constituency.

The other half of that is uncertainty of the future international oil market, and how the quality of tar sands oil (and it much higher costs of extraction) would allow it to compete*. At the moment it has generous federal and provincial supports, but such political advantages can be ephemeral, whereas the high sulfur content and energy input will still be here.

Middle eastern oil's advantages are locked in, too; US oil producers may get a couple of good years out of Trump, but after that - who knows?

*Last I looked, the "multiplier" of profit over production cost for tar sands was just half of that for conventional drilled wells.

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July 24, 2025
11:07 am
Bill
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RetirEd, aboriginal communities will never be on same page, some want development, some don't, just like some aboriginal individuals will always differ.

Over my time on earth I've run into lots of hard-working aboriginal guys working in resources who wanted to make as much money as they could for their families, just like lots on non-aboriginal guys, seems like media pretty much keeps invisible that element of aboriginal communities.

July 24, 2025
1:53 pm
Dean
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@Bill ... There ⬆️ you go using that word 'Never' again

LOL sf-laugh

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July 25, 2025
10:33 am
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No disagreement, Bill. I find the pro-development aboriginal community well represented in media; there's just very little drama over their views. They aren't making any waves that could upset Kinew's sitting government - which both those opposing development and those wanting more control (and a bigger slice of the pie) of resources are doing.

Back to my original point: No surprise Manitoba hasn't taken a position on pipelines yet.

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July 25, 2025
4:57 pm
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I used never because I meant it. There never is agreement on anything among even far less people of any description than all the native bands and all their members. How many people do you need on anything before there are intractable differences, 8, 10, 12?

And this is very different times than the 1950s, Eastern Canada seems completely content to gas up their vehicles with pretty much all foreign, other than Alberta-origin product, there will never be new pipelines built to Eastern Canada imo.

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