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Beware Of The Scammers ! :-(
July 31, 2025
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You want another SCAM story? Here we go.

I wanted to pump some gas at Petro Canada yesterday and was surprized my Petro-Points Card had almost no available points.
Somebody, somehow managed to buy a gas using my Petro Points number emptying my account. Not much, about $17 but still it is a theft.
So HOW come somebody can use my petro points card or number without swiping it at the pump or swiping it at the booth???
My card never left my house nor I ever used it to do any transactions so far. It was a gas purchase as per transaction record (there is a store ID, but could be any purchase at the pump) additional petro points have been earned for that purchase.

July 31, 2025
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Sorry ... I don't have a Pe-Can Petro-Points card, so I can't say.

What do the Petro-Points Card people have to say ?

    Dean

sf-cool " Live Long, Healthy ... And Prosper! " sf-cool

July 31, 2025
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Dean said
What do the Petro-Points Card people have to say ?

    Dean

  

I talked to a live person; got a ticket number; they are investigating.

If crook can take my points at gas station WITHOUT swapping physical card then they are in cohort with gas pump attendants as 'my' gas guy said I HAVE swipe a card in order to use points.
I guess this is a good case to send an email to CBC to get them involved...

July 31, 2025
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itsme said
Why would you guys prefer to bank through a browser rather than the bank's app? Online banking through the bank's app is safer than using a browser, especially if you use a device dedicated only to online banking such as a tablet.  

Could you explain why you believe this ? I am sceptical and would like to know more.

August 1, 2025
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I just think browsers are more susceptible to malware than the bank's app and I wouldn't do banking on a computer that's used for a variety of stuff like surfing the net etc.

August 1, 2025
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itsme said
I just think browsers are more susceptible to malware than the bank's app and I wouldn't do banking on a computer that's used for a variety of stuff like surfing the net etc.  

I've read others who say banking apps are less secure, particularly if you use a password manager to sign in using your browser.

August 1, 2025
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I consider phones less secure; you have less control of what's installed in them, they carry all manner of manufacturer snooping and you can't stop all other apps from running while you bank.

RetirEd

August 1, 2025
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Pythagoras said

I've read others who say banking apps are less secure, particularly if you use a password manager to sign in using your browser.  

I think a separate dedicated browser for online banking is a good security option on any device except maybe on Android devices as the apps run in the background unlike a browser as RetirEd pointed out above.

August 1, 2025
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RetirEd said
I consider phones less secure; you have less control of what's installed in them, they carry all manner of manufacturer snooping and you can't stop all other apps from running while you bank.  

That about sums it up sf-laugh

August 1, 2025
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I wouldn't bank on a phone either. You can stop apps from running in the background and deny them other permissions, and some you can uninstall completely. That being said, I hardly think that device manufacturers are snooping to clean out your bank account

August 2, 2025
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RetirEd said
I consider phones less secure; you have less control of what's installed in them, they carry all manner of manufacturer snooping and you can't stop all other apps from running while you bank.  

I thought landline (unlike cell) phones are secure.

August 2, 2025
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CAD said
If crook can take my points at gas station WITHOUT swapping physical card then they are in cohort with gas pump attendants as 'my' gas guy said I HAVE swipe a card in order to use points.
I guess this is a good case to send an email to CBC to get them involved...  

Your card could have been skimmed and duplicated.

August 2, 2025
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COIN said

I thought landline (unlike cell) phones are secure.  

No Apps on my landline when I had a landline. I cancelled it in 2002 - the cord kept breaking when driving away from the house ...

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August 2, 2025
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Wrayzor said
Your card could have been skimmed and duplicated.  

Card was not used this year at all and never left the house.

Customer service had no clue HOW card number could be compromised beside being aware of a breach in 2023. Only way to use 'card number' is to use physical card or an app.

Whoever used card number to purchase something at the gas station KNEW exactly how many points I had and used max available. Most likely purchased gas as number of points used was round (10,000, etc.).

Petro support was not able to tell me WHERE points were used even though I provided pump store ID#. They have 'no access' to that database...

August 2, 2025
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COIN: Sure, a fixed-line phone is more secure than a mobile, but you can't use online banking software on a fixed-line one. (Of course, that's part of what MAKES it more secure!) I use old-style touch-tone and talk-to-the-people banking on my fixed-line home phone. And refused to allow it to be replaced by an IP (digital internet protocol) phone.

RetirEd

August 2, 2025
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RetirEd said
COIN: Sure, a fixed-line phone is more secure than a mobile, but you can't use online banking software on a fixed-line one. (Of course, that's part of what MAKES it more secure!) I use old-style touch-tone and talk-to-the-people banking on my fixed-line home phone. And refused to allow it to be replaced by an IP (digital internet protocol) phone.  

My bigger concern is that the scammers get my banking info by hacking the financial institution and not me. This happened to me at least once already when the scammers got access to my account when they hacked Simplii a few years ago.

August 3, 2025
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itsme said
I wouldn't bank on a phone either. You can stop apps from running in the background and deny them other permissions, and some you can uninstall completely. That being said, I hardly think that device manufacturers are snooping to clean out your bank account  

If you watch the series, Super Pumped
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11173006/

you can see all the shenanigans Uber pulled to breach your privacy.

August 3, 2025
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Thanks, HermanH! I've been wanting to find that series! I just looked again and found it!

Uber's been a scofflaw since its inception. Just ignired the law and kept making money.

RetirEd

August 4, 2025
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Well you can say the same about google, microsoft and all the rest, it's all about the money. That said I doubt Uber is out to clean out your bank account, at least not criminally.

August 4, 2025
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True. Apple could have stopped Uber cold in their tracks, by removing them from the Apple store. Instead, they let Uber transgressions pass, because they were making Apple so much money; client privacy be damned.

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