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May 20, 2016
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I just realized that mobile banking requires Android version 14 or newer.
8:07 am
November 27, 2025
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Manulife Bank just updated to a minimum of Android 13 for its app. You can still use online banking with a browser.
10:47 am
December 20, 2019
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That's actually good news, it means you need a secure browser and operating system.
Anyone wanting to do online banking with insecure software will probably be the first one complaining if anything untoward occurs.
6:37 pm
September 28, 2023
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The developers need to either extend the amount of releases that their apps are compatible with, or the phone manufacturers need to extend the amount of releases that they upgrade their phones with.
The way it stands, there are many folk being forced to upgrade phones that are just a couple of years old (for no other reason than compatibility) which is creating heaps of e-waste. We don't all need the splashiest camera or AI integrations, just a device that will last 4-5 years should not be too much to ask.
Of course the manufacturers and carriers don't want that... they want us to get a new phone every 2 years so we can be locked into a new contract to pay it off.
7:18 pm
November 19, 2022
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9:23 am
March 14, 2023
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everhopeful said
We don't all need the splashiest camera or AI integrations, just a device that will last 4-5 years should not be too much to ask.
This suggestion prompted me to have a look at how long phones are supported with OS updates as I was curious about the timing. I looked at iPhones to keep it simple (one manufacturer, one OS developer, release timing within their control). Of the currently supported iPhones, the oldest one (11) was released over 6 years ago. If you bought an iPhone 11 just before it was discontinued that was 3+ years ago. So the midpoint is within the 4-5 year period. Over the past decade or so, all iPhones have been supported at least 4 years from the midpoint of their availability range and many are 4 years past their discontinuation date.
I agree with you about e-waste and not needing the latest features. I don't buy the newest phone when I need to upgrade as I don't care for paying for features I'll likely never use. I'm usually upgrading because I've beaten up my phone.
12:48 pm
October 17, 2018
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I assume the OP is out looking for a new phone today after being locked out with no help from Saven. Please update us when/if your issue is resolved.
I just checked RBC requirements and they allow Android 10 and up , Iphone 16.4 and up. They still seem to offer their app as an optional convenience feature for their customers as do most other banks and credit unions and not as a condition of membership. Is it a fair assumption to believe RBC is slacking on security ?
Will Saven soon ban users of Win 10 if they can't provide proof of extended support ?
I am boycotting Saven and encourage others to to do the same to send a signal to this bully. To require customers to have smartphones in 2026 for internet banking is absurd.
As a side note I heard that Turbo tax will not work on Win 10 any longer.
1:25 pm
October 27, 2013
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UFile says Windows 11 is the minimum requirement. The response from the UFile IT folks is because MS no longer supports Windows 10, UFile has chosen to potentially not interface with systems no longer supported for security reasons. They didn't say outright UFile2025 would not work on Windows 10 though.
I think it is overkill but I do understand vendors taking that position. I suspect each vendor, depending on how their website or app interfaces with an OS, they know where potential vulnerabilities may be.
I know that on my phone, I have had to update some apps here and there when older versions no longer work. I don't feel a need to 'denigrate' them as I suspect they are not doing this just because they want to irritate a customer.
There are more important things to engage the cavalry and charge over the hill to go to battle over than software limitations.
3:08 pm
October 17, 2018
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AltaRed said
UFile says Windows 11 is the minimum requirement. The response from the UFile IT folks is because MS no longer supports Windows 10, UFile has chosen to potentially not interface with systems no longer supported for security reasons. They didn't say outright UFile2025 would not work on Windows 10 though.
Well I think that's a very liberal interpretation. More likely is the software won't even install in Win 10. Don't know , don't care but there will probably be some unhappy Win 10 users , those who buy the software and find it won't work/install , those who decide to abandon their favorite tax software in favor of their preferred operating system, and those who understand this as a sign that they need a new computer that still works fine for all their other uses.
AltaRed said
I know that on my phone, I have had to update some apps here and there when older versions no longer work. I don't feel a need to 'denigrate' them as I suspect they are not doing this just because they want to irritate a customer.There are more important things to engage the cavalry and charge over the hill to go to battle over than software limitations.
I am not very good with Android apps and such but isn't it the case that it depends on the particular phone one has and if that particular phone will omly support up to a certain operating system version it effectively becomes a hardware issue.
Saven stands out in this regard and it isn't a good look.
3:16 pm
October 27, 2013
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The Android app issue I think is tied to the OS and yes, depending on the vintage of Android phone, it will only upgrade to a certain OS and then stop.....because I suspect of a hardware (chip or RAM) issue. I have resigned myself to upgrading my phone to latest OS version about every 3 (5 max) years but that is probably wise anyway with battery degradation over time too. I use my phone daily... more than my PC.
P.S. I am not suggesting folks risk buying UFile2025 or TurboTax for installation on a Win10 machine for the reasons you cite. It may, or may not, install. It *IS* time to keep pace. Win10 is long in the tooth anyway.
4:07 pm
October 17, 2018
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I agree. I continue to keep the pace by staying current with Linux. After switching to Linux it was obvious that the hardware was fine yet the operating system it was designed for and came with was no longer supported.
So it does seem to be that the "pace" is determined by the operating systems. Operating systems determine what machines it can be used on. But this isn't the case here. I wonder if all the new gambling apps require Android 14 or higher - to keep us safe of course.
5:29 am
November 8, 2018
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It is possible to install UFile and TurboTax before paying for them, to see if they can install.
TurboTax updated their Windows software requirements for 2025 version, removing Win10 and leaving just Win11. TurboTax 2024 still has Win10 in requirements. It should tell that TurboTax 2025 won't install on Windows 10.
There is also TurboTax online version, should work from browser on Win10, for those brave enough to share all their information with tax preparer web site.
7:36 am
October 27, 2013
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I don't know but these last few posts should probably be in a new thread for 2025 Tax Software. There are obviously 3-5 other tax software packages available that can be resident on a computer.
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