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9:52 am
January 2, 2026
OfflineI am pretty sure no one is pleased that the interest on our new accounts is no longer competitive with other on line banks and that we have lost the ability of paying bills from our Motive savings accounts. I have sent National an email and got an unsatisfactory response, they will forward my email to ????
National originally offered 1.75 % for just a year. There was a huge outcry and they have responded by not limiting this to just a year. If everyone were to email National, telling them how much we depend on a savings account that will allow us to pay bills, just maybe they will respond to that and offer legacy accounts for this too. This is the email address I used. service.telnat@bnc.ca
11:09 am
April 21, 2022
OfflineDarlene said
I am pretty sure no one is pleased that the interest on our new accounts is no longer competitive with other on line banks and that we have lost the ability of paying bills from our Motive savings accounts. I have sent National an email and got an unsatisfactory response, they will forward my email to ????
National originally offered 1.75 % for just a year. There was a huge outcry and they have responded by not limiting this to just a year. If everyone were to email National, telling them how much we depend on a savings account that will allow us to pay bills, just maybe they will respond to that and offer legacy accounts for this too. This is the email address I used. service.telnat@bnc.ca
Wow, I don't know where to start!
11:54 am
April 6, 2013
OfflineAll four Motive accounts
- Motive Savvy Savings Account
- Motive Cha-Ching Chequing Account
- Motive Chequing Account
- Motive Savings Account
were migrated to National Bank CAD Progress Accounts. Cheques can be written on and bills can be paid from the CAD Progress Accounts.
What are you talking about?
1:24 pm
September 7, 2018
OfflineNorman1 said
All four Motive accounts
- Motive Savvy Savings Account
- Motive Cha-Ching Chequing Account
- Motive Chequing Account
- Motive Savings Account
were migrated to National Bank CAD Progress Accounts. Cheques can be written on and bills can be paid from the CAD Progress Accounts.
What are you talking about?
Would seem logical to be able to write cheques on the NBC Chequing Account -they indicated cheques are free (except for delivery cost.)
I doubt the 1.75% on the Savings Account will last longer than a year. That is getting to be a bit high based on the ongoing drop in interest rates.
2:47 pm
April 21, 2022
Offlinecanadian.100 said
Would seem logical to be able to write cheques on the NBC Chequing Account -they indicated cheques are free (except for delivery cost.)
I doubt the 1.75% on the Savings Account will last longer than a year. That is getting to be a bit high based on the ongoing drop in interest rates.
Falling rates have been occurring across the board for several months following the BoC lead, hardly newsworthy, or surprising. There's nothing particularly notable about the NB rate for migrated Motive Savvy Savings accounts.
6:01 pm
April 6, 2013
OfflineNone of the Motive chequing or savings accounts were migrated to National Bank Chequing Accounts or National Bank HISA accounts.
All the Motive chequing and Motive savings accounts were migrated to National Bank CAD Progess Accounts. The CAD Progress Account currently has a higher special rate if it is for a former Motive Savvy Savings Account.
For 12 months, National Bank will forward direct deposits and pre-authorized debits to the former Motive chequing and Motive savings accounts to their corresponding CAD Progress Account.
6:14 pm
September 28, 2023
OfflineOur "demands" won't get anywhere. It has been quite clear since National Bank bought Canadian Western Bank, that their interest was in acquiring a branch network in western Canada (and their fee paying clients) to solidify their position in the Big 6.
I don't think that NB has the same need to attract deposits as CWB did, so us Motive folk are regarded as unwanted baggage during the migration, as seen by rates lowering significantly early last year after the deal was rubber stamped by the feds.
I'm not happy with the changes either, but I am glad that they weren't as ruthless as RBC was with Ally & HSBC clients. They are offering us a similar functionality account without fees, but it will not be a savings account as the rates will eventually fall to the same 0.01-0.05% pittance that their own clients get.
The real miss with them during this process was there was zero effort to maintain external account links, which is very frustrating to many of us who want to move our funds to other FIs that want our deposits. I think they could have kept the links functional for a period of time if there was a will to do so.
12:46 am
April 21, 2022
Offline7:08 am
February 7, 2019
OfflineJohnnyCash said
@everhopeful, I would personally like to see it federally mandated that all banks must provide EFT functionality for their clients. In the USA, it seems the norm in the banking industry, so I don't know why the aversion here, other than to keep clients capital from moving freely.
We are all free to move our business to the Financial Institutions that provide the Products and Services we are wanting or needing.
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8:12 am
April 21, 2022
Offline6:57 pm
September 28, 2023
OfflineJohnnyCash said
@everhopeful, I would personally like to see it federally mandated that all banks must provide EFT functionality for their clients. In the USA, it seems the norm in the banking industry, so I don't know why the aversion here, other than to keep clients capital from moving freely.
Completely agree! And we need a framework to set up EFTs that don't require sharing banking logins between institutions. I despise Flinks, Plaid, etc... but it is all too common now, and many times no alternative is provided.
cgouimet said
We are all free to move our business to the Financial Institutions that provide the Products and Services we are wanting or needing.
Completely agree as well! Having more common EFTs would enhance our freedom by making moving our business even easier.
I think Interac would be a good organization to lead this change. Their successes with ATM interoperability and e-transfer service would lend well to setting up EFT links. I would trust them a lot more than fintechs.
10:06 am
October 27, 2013
OfflineOpen banking progress have been very slow in Canada but there is hope by mid-2027.
https://www.openbankingexpo.com/news/canadian-government-commits-to-open-banking-in-budget-2025/
The government recognizes the risk of screen scraping
https://www.canada.ca/en/financial-consumer-agency/services/banking/open-banking.html
5:32 pm
December 12, 2009
OfflineDarlene, I admire your peaceful protest and activism, but it's unlikely to change National Bank's mind. In my view, you are better off finding a new home for your savings and closing out your National Bank accounts. If you need the chequing account, keep it so long as National Bank provides you the fee waiver, but otherwise, close it all down and be done with it. I did that with Coast Capital Savings and Hubert Financial. 
Cheers,
Doug
6:23 pm
January 10, 2017
OfflineAltaRed said
Open banking progress have been very slow in Canada but there is hope by mid-2027.https://www.openbankingexpo.com/news/canadian-government-commits-to-open-banking-in-budget-2025/
The government recognizes the risk of screen scraping
https://www.canada.ca/en/financial-consumer-agency/services/banking/open-banking.html
Nice that the Canadian Government knows FinTechs like "Flinks" Screen Scrape all of your banking info when you give them your login credentials.....so why don't they pass a law against it? Hypocrisy?
4:10 am
December 20, 2019
OfflineThe signal is pretty clear, treat a buyout the same as a bank closure, nothing ever stays the same.
I moved away from...
Hubert
Motus
Motive
I moved from them as soon as the buyout announcements were made, the idea of my money going to a place I did not have control over immediately raised my red flags.
My personal migration went like this...
Hubert -> Saven (great savings vehicle)
Motus -> Meridian (have business account there too)
Motive -> Wealth Simple (daily working account)
PC Financial -> Simplii (to keep one big bank) only used for subscriptions and bills
I picked who to move to, I did not allow any of them to make the decision for me.
PS. A word to the wise, keep your CRA deposit account at one of the big banks like Simplii (CIBC) so you don't give CRA access to your main bank accounts.
5:05 am
November 18, 2017
Offline5:20 am
September 7, 2018
OfflineKamWest said
I moved away from...Hubert
Motus
MotiveI moved from them as soon as the buyout announcements were made, the idea of my money going to a place I did not have control over immediately raised my red flags.
My personal migration went like this...
Hubert -> Saven (great savings vehicle)
Motus -> Meridian (have business account there too)
Motive -> Wealth Simple (daily working account)
PC Financial -> Simplii (to keep one big bank) only used for subscriptions and billsI picked who to move to, I did not allow any of them to make the decision for me.
Did not think of Wealthsimple but I am hearing it is a great alternative to other banks - high interest rate on chequing account approx 2%, unlimited transfers instead of cheques and no service charges etc. Are u satisfied with Wealthsimple?
11:11 am
September 28, 2023
OfflineI first signed up for trading account with them (they were the first to start the no commission wave that is fortunately commonplace). It is a great place to trade CAD stocks, but not a great for USD because of the forced 1.5% exchange every trade (unless you pay monthly fee or have over $100k assets). I moved on to another brokerage that has free USD trading, but still have a few penny stocks with WS.
A few years ago they dangled $100 for me to switch my direct deposit to them, and I bit. It is a decent main account, the main missing feature is ATM deposits (looks they just started cheque deposit by phone a few weeks ago). I used Wealthsimple as my daily account for about a year, before switching my direct deposit over to EQ to earn about 1% more in their daily account. One thing that has always kept me from keeping a large cash balance in WS is I dont trust their 10x CDIC scheme, but I will leave that debate to the other threads on here about that.
So I do find Wealthsimple has pioneered great products and forced change upon the industry that we all now enjoy, but I have found better alternatives elsewhere. WS seems to be focusing their efforts less on gaining customers, to having more assets transferred to them from other institutions.
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