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February 1, 2023
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Hello, a few days ago I was told about Canadian Western Bank's recently-introduced "Flex Notice Account."
Does anyone have experience with this? I'm going to call them Monday, it looks kind of interesting. I was told that with a min. balance of $25,000 the rate (which is linked to prime) is currently 5.25%.
BTW keep in mind for CDIC purposes, Motive is a brand of CWB, not a separate entity.
Here's the website, and here's a video for your viewing enjoyment:
3:17 pm
December 12, 2009
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Notice deposits are nothing new, and, as far as I know, CWB has always had a notice deposit account. They're essentially very similar to short-term GICs (i.e., GICs of at least 30 and less than 365 days) and even more similar to redeemable GICs with a minimum 30 day or six-month holding period in that, in order to receive the interest accrued, you must notify the financial institution in advance of your intended withdrawal date. So they're broadly similar, but different to short-term GICs in how they're implemented. 🙂
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Doug
8:53 pm
January 30, 2018
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I just opened one for myself and my wife.
originally planned to transfer 1 million there but now really doubt it because SVB fiasco.
with the 91 day notice requirement, you can't do a quick RUN
1:10 am
April 6, 2013
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For a possible quick run, something like the one-year RBC Prime-Linked Cashable GIC would be a better fit.
For $1 million or more, the current rate is P - 2.0% = 6.7% - 2.0% = 4.7%.
3:49 am
February 14, 2023
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sothisistheinternet said
Hello, a few days ago I was told about Canadian Western Bank's recently-introduced "Flex Notice Account."Does anyone have experience with this? I'm going to call them Monday, it looks kind of interesting. I was told that with a min. balance of $25,000 the rate (which is linked to prime) is currently 5.25%.
BTW keep in mind for CDIC purposes, Motive is a brand of CWB, not a separate entity.
Here's the website, and here's a video for your viewing enjoyment:
hi, is 5.25% a typo?
6:52 am
September 30, 2017
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It s month old. One thing I learned - CWB got a location in Markham, Ontario … Alberta is calling 
12:55 pm
February 14, 2023
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does anyone have an opinion regarding the risk profile w.r.t. CWB?
I suppose anything within CDIC limits makes this simple, or am I missing something….
for CAD funds (min $25k):
-31 day notice rate is 4.95% (ie CWB Prime @6.70% - 1.75%)
-93 day notice rate is 5.25% (ie CWB Prime @6.70% - 1.45%)
Not really seeing anything similarly promoted from other FIs.
2:25 pm
April 6, 2013
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No-one else is promoting something similar probably because the product is an inconvenient one.
Having to give 31 days or 93 days notice is inconvenient. Receiving one's money sometime "within five days" of the expiry of the notice period is also inconvenient.
Canadian Western Bank has a DBRS debt rating of A(low). So, its uninsured deposits are a bit riskier than those of a bank like Royal Bank, with a AA(high) rating, or Bank of Montreal, with a AA rating.
4:46 pm
November 18, 2017
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In theory, the notice requirement would allow the deposit-taking institution more time to react to sudden withdrawals, limiting the effects of a run on it. This could allow them to offer higher rates even if holding bonds whose rates are no longer competitive.
So there is some reason for some investors to consider them.
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12:35 pm
February 14, 2023
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CWB getting greedy here w/ flex notice…prime up but SPREAD up even more, lower returns ahead.
1:40 pm
March 30, 2017
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kesa said
CWB getting greedy here w/ flex notice…prime up but SPREAD up even more, lower returns ahead.
They followed CIBC's example of so called variable rate GICs. As prime goes up, so are the spread against it...
6:34 pm
March 17, 2018
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Seems like CWB is getting more interesting. Does anyone think that CWB is going to eventually absorb Motive back into the main bank? I noticed on the regular GIC page for Motive it stated :
New Motive clients will be required to open a Motive bank account with Canadian Western Bank to buy an Eligible GIC.
6:54 pm
April 6, 2013
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Motive Financial is actually Canadian Western Bank already.
Motive and Motive Financial are just names used by Canadian Western Bank. This is under the CDIC logo on Motive's main page:
Motive Financial is a trade name of Canadian Western Bank, which is a member of CDIC.
I would interpret that requirement on their GIC page as:
New Motive [product] clients will be required to open a Motive[-branded] bank account with Canadian Western Bank to buy an Eligible GIC.
4:25 am
March 17, 2018
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Norman1 said
Motive Financial is actually Canadian Western Bank already.Motive and Motive Financial are just names used by Canadian Western Bank. This is under the CDIC logo on Motive's main page:
Motive Financial is a trade name of Canadian Western Bank, which is a member of CDIC.
I would interpret that requirement on their GIC page as:
New Motive [product] clients will be required to open a Motive[-branded] bank account with Canadian Western Bank to buy an Eligible GIC.
So if one only has a Motive account and buys a GIC, do they need to create a separate CWB account even though they are owned by CWB? If so, then it seems to me that they could be in the process of phasing out Motive.
5:32 am
September 30, 2017
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I think the text mean to say a new client cannot apply for just the GIC product(s) *alone*. An accompanied Motive banking account is required. Quite a few others have that same requirement.
6:31 am
April 6, 2013
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A Motive Savvy Savings Account or a Motive Cha-Ching Chequing Account will meet the requirement. Both Motive-branded accounts are issued by Canadian Western Bank.
Doesn't really make sense to also require a Canadian Western Bank branded account when one already has a Motive-branded account issued by the bank.
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