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5:32 pm
December 18, 2024
Offline7:25 pm
December 18, 2024
Offline8:39 pm
April 6, 2013
OfflineIt's about lowering the rate of the lowest federal income tax bracket (that applies to the first $57,375 (in 2025) of taxable income): "reducing the lowest marginal personal income tax rate from 15 per cent to 14 per cent, effective July 1, 2025."
See Department of Finance Canada: Delivering a middle-class tax cut.
6:07 am
November 19, 2022
OfflineLess taxes collected, more budget deficit. Plus $28B over five years.
What is the logic behind this?
The PBO report also highlighted the potential net cost of the tax cut, estimating it could be up to $28 billion over the next five years after taking into account associated reductions in federal tax credits under the plan.
The federal deficit is projected to be $48.3 billion for 2024-25, with a baseline deficit of $42.2 billion (or 1.3 per cent of GDP) in the 2025-26 year that just began.
6:43 am
December 27, 2020
OfflineUkrainianDude said
Less taxes collected, more budget deficit. Plus $28B over five years.
What is the logic behind this?
The PBO report also highlighted the potential net cost of the tax cut, estimating it could be up to $28 billion over the next five years after taking into account associated reductions in federal tax credits under the plan.
The federal deficit is projected to be $48.3 billion for 2024-25, with a baseline deficit of $42.2 billion (or 1.3 per cent of GDP) in the 2025-26 year that just began.
At the risk of stating the obvious, cutting income taxes is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Typically it puts more financial burden on future generations.
9:22 am
January 12, 2019
Offline6:57 am
January 10, 2017
OfflineFor a person with an income of $100,000. This is the result. Approximately $300 in 2025 and $600 in 2026. We need to thank 'future working canadians" for this.
The Basic Personal Amount is the income level that is not taxed federally.
In 2025, the BPA is $15,705.
In 2026, assume $16,225 (estimated increase due to indexation)
2025 Calculations (Effective rate 14.5% on first bracket due to July 1 change)
Split taxable income:
First $57,375 at 14.5%
Remaining $26,920 at 20.5%
Tax payable:
$57,375 × 14.5% = $8,318.38
$26,920 × 20.5% = $5,518.60
Total = $13,836.98
Without tax cut (old 15%):
$57,375 × 15% = $8,606.25
$26,920 × 20.5% = $5,518.60
Total = $14,124.85
Savings in 2025 = $14,124.85 − $13,836.98 = $287.87
2026 Calculations (Full-year rate: 14%)
Split taxable income:
First $57,375 at 14%
Remaining $26,400 at 20.5%
Tax payable:
$57,375 × 14% = $8,032.50
$26,400 × 20.5% = $5,412.00
Total = $13,444.50
Without tax cut (15%):
$57,375 × 15% = $8,606.25
$26,400 × 20.5% = $5,412.00
Total = $14,018.25
Savings in 2026 = $14,018.25 − $13,444.50 = $573.75
11:59 am
January 11, 2020
OfflineMy general feeling from reading this thread is that people actually think tax cut is a bad thing? We are so overly tax in this country and they have prove and they will never do anything productive with the richness of tax revenue. They receive. Legalized stealing, which is what taxation is, you think it actually brings more benefit to you than leaving it in the actual earner’s pocket sorry I’m not on board with any of that I’ve always voted for the lowest cost government at every level. They burn it like firewood on most things I disagree with. Leave my money with me.. it needs to be a me first situation now…In 2015. We had one candidate say we need to keep a balance budget keep debt low and therefore keep taxes low and going lower, which is good for business , future job growth and standard of living for the average Canadian, the other person stated at the podium and promised to run up debt and deficits and the majority of Canadiens voted for that so I’m sorry it’s me first me and my family. I don’t give a rip about anyone else because that’s what we’ve created in this country.
My cousins moved to the United States five years ago it’s not even close in terms of taxation and standard of living. I pay a 50% marginal tax rate. My coworker had to pay out of his own pocket to go to Buffalo to get an MRI that was six months wait here. His therapist were telling him he can’t continue to walk with his damaged hip like that for another six months, but you can’t get an MRI here.
We gave $5 billion to educate people in the Philippines on climate change in December 2023
Why the hell would I wanna leave one more cent with a bunch of evil doers in Ottawa that spend on everything except things that are actually important to me and help your average life long Canadian. Our government views Canadians dead last, and everyone of their pet projects will get priority. Sorry I wouldn’t leave an extra half cent with them. Rack up more debts, give me more tax breaks, it’s what Canadian democracy voted for. Either way we go bust, we may as well have some good memories and some fun off those tax break dollars because it gives me no satisfaction if this country goes belly up that we educated Philippines on climate change or dropped more bombs on Russians, or spent more money on our military..
sorry, I’m on a rant here one more point think of all the hundreds of millions of dollars that they kicked the crap out of us on carbon taxes you think with that kind of revenue windfall with a brand new taxation. It takes a real special kind of stupid to have deficits and debts rise when you’re raking in hundreds of millions of extra dollars on a new tax so that’s my point there’s no point leaving one sent with them. They won’t do anything productive with it anyway.
7:35 am
November 8, 2021
OfflineMattS said
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sorry, I’m on a rant here one more point think of all the hundreds of millions of dollars that they kicked the crap out of us on carbon taxes you think with that kind of revenue windfall with a brand new taxation. It takes a real special kind of stupid to have deficits and debts rise when you’re raking in hundreds of millions of extra dollars on a new tax so that’s my point there’s no point leaving one sent with them. They won’t do anything productive with it anyway.
I totally agree with your post. It's been highly political since 2015. We all know who got into power, and who's still holding it. The transformation of this country, for the worse, is nothing short of an economic disaster. At least, before that time, there was a coherent economic policy, debating points on policy. Now it's all about what they gonna come up with next. One thing for sure, the single most divisive economic policy in the "green transition", EV radical push, billions of $$$ handed in subsidies, an imposed economic policy, without public support, people who vote for, and without a well-thought roadmap with reasonable targets, all culminated in a huge debacle we all pay for. As of last read, Northern Volt in QC was axed, several carmakers pulled out, or postponed the plan by several years, citing low demand. If the masses don't subscribe to such transformable policy, it will crash.
1:42 pm
November 18, 2017
OfflineCutting taxes in a way that benefits the "friends and family" of the wealthier population worsens national debt. Expecting the vast majority of Canadians, who gain more from taxation than they pay, to support regressive tax policies is not rational in any form of democracy. The less wealthy have friends and family they will want to benefit, too, and they vastly outnumber the very wealthy.
RetirEd
3:17 am
March 30, 2017
OfflineMattS said
My general feeling from reading this thread is that people actually think tax cut is a bad thing? We are so overly tax in this country and they have prove and they will never do anything productive with the richness of tax revenue. They receive. Legalized stealing, which is what taxation is, you think it actually brings more benefit to you than leaving it in the actual earner’s pocket sorry I’m not on board with any of that I’ve always voted for the lowest cost government at every level. They burn it like firewood on most things I disagree with. Leave my money with me.. it needs to be a me first situation now…In 2015. We had one candidate say we need to keep a balance budget keep debt low and therefore keep taxes low and going lower, which is good for business , future job growth and standard of living for the average Canadian, the other person stated at the podium and promised to run up debt and deficits and the majority of Canadiens voted for that so I’m sorry it’s me first me and my family. I don’t give a rip about anyone else because that’s what we’ve created in this country.
My cousins moved to the United States five years ago it’s not even close in terms of taxation and standard of living. I pay a 50% marginal tax rate. My coworker had to pay out of his own pocket to go to Buffalo to get an MRI that was six months wait here. His therapist were telling him he can’t continue to walk with his damaged hip like that for another six months, but you can’t get an MRI here.
We gave $5 billion to educate people in the Philippines on climate change in December 2023
Why the hell would I wanna leave one more cent with a bunch of evil doers in Ottawa that spend on everything except things that are actually important to me and help your average life long Canadian. Our government views Canadians dead last, and everyone of their pet projects will get priority. Sorry I wouldn’t leave an extra half cent with them. Rack up more debts, give me more tax breaks, it’s what Canadian democracy voted for. Either way we go bust, we may as well have some good memories and some fun off those tax break dollars because it gives me no satisfaction if this country goes belly up that we educated Philippines on climate change or dropped more bombs on Russians, or spent more money on our military..
sorry, I’m on a rant here one more point think of all the hundreds of millions of dollars that they kicked the crap out of us on carbon taxes you think with that kind of revenue windfall with a brand new taxation. It takes a real special kind of stupid to have deficits and debts rise when you’re raking in hundreds of millions of extra dollars on a new tax so that’s my point there’s no point leaving one sent with them. They won’t do anything productive with it anyway.
I am with you on this topic but unfortunately we are the minority at best.
It's the same as spending $$$$ to ship a rescue dog from middle east, so that it can be adopted in Canada. While tens of thousands of people are suffering from hunger and poor living conditions around the world where that money could be better spent.
4:24 am
November 18, 2017
Offlinesavemoresaveoften: I'm pretty sure the rescue dogs from other countries were imported by non-governmental agencies. Those who paid for them put their interests (dog-saving) ahead of all the others in our country.
MattS: That five billion (5.3 actually over 2023-3026) covers a range of UN climate action over several years, of which only some (I can't find out how much) is for Phillippines climate education. This has been widely misreported. See:
qa.philstar.com/headlines/2023/12/12/2318157/philippines-among-beneficiaries-canadas-climate-finance-undp
“We would like to clarify that the $5.3-billion is Canada’s total international climate finance commitment, and not just dedicated to the Philippines,” according to a statement sent by a UNDP staff to The STAR yesterday.
The cash lost to increased military spending, including money to support Ukraine in resisting Russian incursions into Europe, is not the result of our government's choices. We were bullied into it by world politics... and the big bully to our south.
Taxation isn't theft; it's co-operative action. Do you really need to be pointed yet again to roads, power, air travel, utilities, health care, police, defense, public safety, and all other infrastructure you BUY with your taxes?
Do you actually defend your preference that the disabled, injured, bankrupted, deserted and aged should be left to die? That's what you are clearly and unashamedly saving.
RetirEd
1:12 am
November 18, 2017
Offline7:09 am
September 11, 2013
OfflineI disagree that government expenditures will decrease, in my opinion we have an electorate that has been curated to toss out anybody that would do that.
And I think more than tax increases (that wouldn't be nearly enough) there will be all sorts of new taxes (and maybe clawback of senior CPP pension, etc) for those deemed to have too much wealth. There's still lots to grab from well-to-do.
Not advocating either, just what I think will happen in Canada.
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