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September 21, 2025
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JohnnyCash
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Winnie will give us the address when it's time. Just bring a spade and pick.

September 21, 2025
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Why would you buy gold at the bank?
I bought a gold 1/4oz coin at the gold dealer for my bro and was asked for NO ID nor address, etc.
Paid cash - no trail where money come from. I assume it will be similar to sell that coin.
If you buy through bank, by etransfer, cheque, etc. SOMEBODY (government) will know you HAVE gold and might take it from you one day if they need it.
Forget about 'democracy', 'human rights', 'Charter' and similar fairy tells...

September 21, 2025
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CAD said
Why would you buy gold at the bank?
I bought a gold 1/4oz coin at the gold dealer for my bro and was asked for NO ID nor address, etc.
Paid cash - no trail where money come from. I assume it will be similar to sell that coin.
If you buy through bank, by etransfer, cheque, etc. SOMEBODY (government) will know you HAVE gold and might take it from you one day if they need it.
Forget about 'democracy', 'human rights', 'Charter' and similar fairy tells...  

Yeah, when the world goes to hell, there likely to be only one currency freely exchangeable. It certainly won't be crypto, people will laugh. Those bills in our wallet won't even be useful to help start a fire. Credit and debit cards, nope. Gold on the other hand will always be welcome in exchange for goods and services.

September 21, 2025
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Dealers do have to report sales over $10k to FINTRAC and I imagine that info is thus available to CRA

Bullion transactions under 1 oz are not considered investments. No reporting required.

September 21, 2025
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JohnnyCash said

Yeah, when the world goes to hell, there likely to be only one currency freely exchangeable. It certainly won't be crypto, people will laugh. Those bills in our wallet won't even be useful to help start a fire. Credit and debit cards, nope. Gold on the other hand will always be welcome in exchange for goods and services.

WRONG Again ⬆️, Johnny❗

"When the world goes to Hell" . . .

    Gold will be of No use to Anyone. You can't eat it, you can't drink it, you can't use it to defend yourself, etc., etc.,. When the world goes to hell, the 'Barter System' will be King, and gold won't be involved.

Best to stock up on storable vegies, canned food, water, ammo, etc., while you can ... Cuz It's Comin' Real Soonsf-wink

    Dean

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You guys Crack Me Up ... LOL sf-laugh

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September 21, 2025
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Dean said

JohnnyCash said

Yeah, when the world goes to hell, there likely to be only one currency freely exchangeable. It certainly won't be crypto, people will laugh. Those bills in our wallet won't even be useful to help start a fire. Credit and debit cards, nope. Gold on the other hand will always be welcome in exchange for goods and services.

WRONG Again ⬆️, Johnny❗

"When the world goes to Hell" . . .

    Gold will be of No use to Anyone. You can't eat it, you can't drink it, you can't use it to defend yourself, etc., etc.,. When the world goes to hell, the 'Barter System' will be King, and gold won't be involved.

Best to stock up on storable vegies, canned food, water, ammo, etc., while you can ... Cuz It's Comin' Real Soonsf-wink

    Dean

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You guys Crack Me Up ... LOL sf-laugh  

The barter system is great until you accept something in exchange only to find out you can't unload it for something you need. So there will need to be a common agreed platform for those situations. Granted, if things go to hell, then it will be much to late to worry about all those chickens you accepted in exchange for the shotgun shells.

September 21, 2025
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AltaRed, I've no doubt there's all sorts of information available to CRA on all sorts of stuff, I'm willing to wager there isn't one CRA employee dedicated to reviewing the transactions you refer to.

From my lengthy experience I've seen nothing to convince me CRA does anything other that stumble upon obvious errors on filed tax returns and that's what they spend all their time doing.

September 21, 2025
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CRA has software “stumbling upon” errors. Software keeps improving, at least in theory, to detect more and more. Large transactions are detectable and criminal prosecution is possible in cases of evasion. Even if individual sales are under $10,000, authorities can and do detect patterns and link transactions. It’s advisable to keep records/receipts for past purchases to keep compliance simpler.

If bullion is inherited without receipts, I assume there will be an attempt to reconstruct ACB based on serial numbers, coin dates, etc.

September 21, 2025
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What do you pay your armies with in the face of the next big one?

September 21, 2025
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AI says CRA averages about 25 or 30 convictions a year for tax evasion.

In a country with our population with zillions of financial transactions every day that's the same as zero, to me.

September 21, 2025
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AR said
What do you pay your armies with in the face of the next big one?  

Labubu's ,apparently very desirable and quite the rage?

September 21, 2025
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CAD said
Why would you buy gold at the bank?
If you buy through bank, by etransfer, cheque, etc. SOMEBODY (government) will know you HAVE gold and might take it from you one day if they need it.
Forget about 'democracy', 'human rights', 'Charter' and similar fairy tells...  

At that time (before 1999), I paid only cash for gold.
I liked $1000 bills, usually had with me more than 10 bills all the time.
I liked banks, because price was fair and guaranteed no fakes.
Also, two times two different banks did a mistakes. I was buying 10 bars (5 oz each) and was charged only for 10 oz, not 50 oz. I have learned, that no too many customers were buying gold at that time and bank employee sometimes had no experience in such transactions. It was fun, I liked those days. With gold dealers totally different experience - sometimes they cheat!

Bill said
Your gold "will remain hidden after my departure", eh? Someday somebody will knock down that house, it may get returned to the earth mixed in with all the rubble, imagine that!  

No, Bill, my gold will remain hidden in the Greenbelt area in Southern Ontario until Doug Ford will decide to build some highway exactly thru my hiding spot in the forest. Seriously, I do not keep any written records about my hidden spot location anywhere, I do rely solely on my memory.

September 21, 2025
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Bill said
AI says CRA averages about 25 or 30 convictions a year for tax evasion.

In a country with our population with zillions of financial transactions every day that's the same as zero, to me.  

Criminal convictions are in tens, yes. Civil reassessments and penalties are in thousands though. Then you get a much larger number of “reassessments”. Who wouldn’t like a 100% penalty on top of tax owed plus interest?

September 21, 2025
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I agree convictions and re-assessments/penalties are entirely different things. Regardless, it is really up to the individual on how they 'play the game'. I am not into precious metals or commodities of any kind, physical or otherwise.

September 22, 2025
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JohnnyCash said

The barter system is great until you accept something in exchange only to find out you can't unload it for something you need. So there will need to be a common agreed platform for those situations. Granted, if things go to hell, then it will be much to late to worry about all those chickens you accepted in exchange for the shotgun shells.  

Ah yes ... but you'll still have your Precious Gold firmly clenched in your weakening hands, as you slowly pass-out from lack of water, food and shelter.

When the Apocalypse comes ... Kiss Your Gold 'Goodbye'sf-wink

    Dean

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September 22, 2025
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Yes, lots of reassessments, and related penalties, based on all the errors people make when they file, or file late, the stuff that lands in CRA's lap, CRA's great with that.

That, and their matching program with T slip issuers, which again is dead easy for their computer, is all they do.

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