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Canada Post: No settlement yet. Strike could resume May 22, 2025.
September 26, 2025
8:17 am
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HermanH said
I hear the same; they have to think of creative means to occupy those extra hours, so as not to return to the depot ahead of time.  

The carrier I spoke to said he has a second "real" job to occupy those extra hours.

September 26, 2025
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Norman1 said
Tone deaf and dishonest.

Universal mail service is good idea but not a consitutional right in Canada. If one wishes to have home door-to-door delivery every business day, then one must be willing to pay for it, directly through mailing/shipping prices or indirectly through higher taxes.

Some things that were sustainable before, with higher letter mail volumes, aren't now. That Canada Post employee delivering letters door-to-door has not taken a pay cut since mail volumes have declined. With the stories I've read, they are finishing their routes early and still being paid for the whole day.  

For what it's worth, I am in favour of a publicly owned and operated postal service, including some level of federal subsidy, but not necessarily in favour of door-to-door delivery. I think the federal government's approach, announced yesterday, in accepting all the recommendations of the IIC to modernize the postal service, end the moratorium on "rural" post office closures, and end to door-to-door delivery, as well as adopt a variable delivery frequency for regular lettermail is the right one.

September 26, 2025
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mordko said
Not bad for something one can qualify for by finishing 3 grades at school. I am guessing Amazon drivers delivering orders same/next day to rural areas don’t get any of the above.  

It's worse than that. They are independent contractors. Something's got to give. We need the provinces to pass company-specific legislation in every province mandating Amazon delivery drivers be employees of the company, or that they be employees of the delivery company they contract with. People deserve a living wage.

September 26, 2025
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doug said

It's worse than that. They are independent contractors. Something's got to give. We need the provinces to pass company-specific legislation in every province mandating Amazon delivery drivers be employees of the company, or that they be employees of the delivery company they contract with. People deserve a living wage.  

Why?

I am an independent contractor. I am responsible for my income, skills, securing clients, tools, healthcare, sick pay, pension, job security, etc. People should take responsibility for themselves unless something’s wrong with them.

Besides, Amazon delivery system works great (unlike Canada Post) - why break it? If you make costs too high Amazon will replace humans with machines which won’t help humans as much as you think it should. Delivery drivers are likely on borrowed time anyway.

September 27, 2025
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COIN: As I recall, many years ago there was a change in postal policy, requiring letter carriers to return to their bases and sort mail if they have not finished their routes. I don't know how many classes of employee are covered by this policy.

In any case, the reduction of mail volume would certainly reduce the hours of work needed for many roles.

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September 27, 2025
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In any case, the reduction of mail volume would certainly reduce the hours of work needed for many roles.  

Life lesson #269
No Frills and other stores in my area used to hire private citizens to deliver their flyers. So, what happened was there were bundles of undeliverd flyers put out on garbage pick-up day to be taken to the dump. I asked No Frills, Canadian Tire, etc. if they do any check to see if their flyers are actually delivered to households. Their response was "we don't care" and we thought Canada Post was bad, eh.

September 27, 2025
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In the midst of converting RRSP's to RRIF and it seems every bank uses snail mail to process these. Was quoted 8 weeks to prcocess one and now it is stuck in my local mailbox as of Thursday!sf-cry

September 27, 2025
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RetirEd said
COIN: As I recall, many years ago there was a change in postal policy, requiring letter carriers to return to their bases and sort mail if they have not finished their routes. I don't know how many classes of employee are covered by this policy.

In any case, the reduction of mail volume would certainly reduce the hours of work needed for many roles.

I suspect that's not the case. Too many reports of carriers not doing so.

One bar owner reported letter carriers at his bar starting in the middle of the afternoon mutiple times a week after they are "done" for the day!

Likely no-one is monitoring the amount of mail being put out to each distribution box on the routes. If carrier opens the box and finds only five pieces of mail to deliver, carrier is just going to go directly to those addresses and not walk the full route.

September 27, 2025
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mordko said

Why?

I am an independent contractor. I am responsible for my income, skills, securing clients, tools, healthcare, sick pay, pension, job security, etc. People should take responsibility for themselves unless something’s wrong with them.

Besides, Amazon delivery system works great (unlike Canada Post) - why break it? If you make costs too high Amazon will replace humans with machines which won’t help humans as much as you think it should. Delivery drivers are likely on borrowed time anyway.  

Amazon can afford it, and besides, they're already replacing humans with automation. That won't change. The wealth gap has been increasing between the top and bottom segments of society. It's time to bring back some equilibrium. sf-cool

September 27, 2025
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Anyone noticed how they say that Social Security and other assistance cheques will still be delivered, but not any other mail? That means that workers (technically on strike) can still draw a full day's pay for delivering only 10% of the allotted amount. How despicable, yet not surprising for CUPW.

September 28, 2025
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I have gotten my pension cheques all during the labour dispute, including the previous strike. And they came a few days early, too, no doubt to ensure pensioners make their rent payments.

I understand this was an arrangement between CUPW and Canada Post to prevent lack of such deliveries from supporting back-to-work legislation and demonizing the union members. I can't verify if they will still get a full day's pay, but not all letter carriers would have to service their own routes... a far smaller number of carriers would be able to serve the limited amount of mail and recipients. So if a small number would be lucky to get a full day's pay, the rest would get zilch.

The hiring of local (and unreliable) contractors to deliver flyers was terminated after an outcry from citizens. Many objected to non-bonded, unregulated delivery folk being allowed into secured apartment buildings to make deliveries; I in particular didn't like those deliveries waking me at 6-7am. much earlier than my usual mail route schedule.

And of course the union didn't like union deliveries being contracted out, as they had every right to be unhappy about. Canada Post tried to claim the flyer operation was a separate one not covered by the union contract, but the courts stuck by their history of rejecting such union-bypass shenanigans.

That said, while I expect unions to defend their members' interests, there really can't be full employment in a business that's a hollow shell of its former scale.

Now, who's going to do something about the wasteful mass ejection of private delivery boxes and bags now clogging our garbage bins? My building has gone from four bins to EIGHT since the cardboard explosion! CBC's MARKETPLACE echoed my concerns in its latest program, which is still available on line.

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September 28, 2025
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"The wealth gap has been increasing between the top and bottom segments of society. It's time to bring back some equilibrium."

I think the bottom segment's weath is also growing but maybe not as fast as the top segment. In any field of human endeavour some will always do better than others. Think Toronto Maple Leafs (no Cup in most of our lifetime).
Of course, the NHL tried to address this by giving the Leafs Matthews and Marner (but still no Cup or even close).

Of course our governments try to address this "inequity" by taxing the wealthy more harshly.

September 28, 2025
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RetirEd said
I have gotten my pension cheques all during the labour dispute, including the previous strike.

You have your reasons for receiving pension by mail but WHY would you reply on somebody and then have to go to the bank (or use an app) to deposit your cheque?
Why not have direct deposit?

September 28, 2025
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COIN: In fact, the lower income tranches of our population are not really keeping pace. They aren't matching the price indices, and more of them are losing their jobs or descending to part-time/contract work where they lose benefits - sick days, vacation, pension etc.

Governments have NOT been taxing the wealthy more heavily! Regressive taxes like the GST/HST, carbon tax (now gone) and provincial sales taxes leave the less-well-off even less well off. Meanwhile, income tax rates are less progressive than ever (marginal rates used to top out at 80% but are now almost all below 50%), there are tax breaks that are worthless to those who don't earn enough to pay much income tax, and corporate taxes keep getting reduced as well. Losing the planned Digital Services Tax allows media and tech companies - the largest ones non-Canadian - to shovel cash out of our society without contributing anything save (sometimes) a very few jobs.

The small business tax level and allowing passive investments to be held in corporations allow more less-taxed corporate income to bne sheltered.

CAD: I don't allow direct deposit on any account or institution that holds funds. I know too many people who have been slammed by penalty charges when direct deposits are erroneously reversed or not made on time.

So the direct deposits I do accept (just one at the moment) go into an account and institution that never holds any funds save GICs. That means I have wait for holds to expire before I can move them.

I can deposit a cheque immediately and use or move the funds at will.

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September 28, 2025
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This is both false and off topic.

The topic is on CUPE’s Canada Post strike. Which is probably a good thing in the long run. Hopefully it will shorten patient’s suffering and the postal workers get some training so they can find gainful employment elsewhere.

September 29, 2025
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RetirEd said
COIN:
Governments have NOT been taxing the wealthy more heavily! Regressive taxes like the GST/HST, carbon tax (now gone) and provincial sales taxes leave the less-well-off even less well off. Meanwhile, income tax rates are less progressive than ever (marginal rates used to top out at 80% but are now almost all below 50%), there are tax breaks that are worthless to those who don't earn enough to pay much income tax,   

To quote the famous late Jack Layton.

"Tax breaks don't benefit people who don't pay taxes." I think that is why he pushed for a negative income tax.

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