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That does happen but the flexibility remains for the entity to put the contract out to bid. If a private contractor cannot low bid at renewal due to a union labour contract in place, then the contract at renewal might end up with a different private contractor. I think every such contract should not have more than a 5 year term to keep the pressure on contractors to compete at lowest cost.

We all know examples of businesses that tend to shut down or fade away when they are no longer competitive. It happens often enough when workers at an enterprise unionize. A great way to negotiate your way out of a job.

These are great-sounding purely political slogans which in real world translate to poor and unaffordable service every single time. Canada Post is a perfect illustration.

Workers handling Canadian mail must meet security and responsibility levels, too. And licensing provisions for driving commercial trucks.

Theft and fraud involving mail need to be protected against, too.

Community or central postboxes have long been part of Canada Post's system. Though there have been previous federal electoral promises to either freeze their installation or eliminate them, there are at the moment no plans to do so.

CAD said
Canada Post stopped delivering 'Neighbourhood Mail' - Flyers and other junk mail (unaddressed direct mail) - as of yesterday 2025.09.15.
Less junk mail, thank you. Regular addressed mail will be accepted and delivered...
No wonder my mailbox is empty...  

You can fix that, as I have mentioned before, by putting a note in your mailbox saying 'no unaddressed mail'. We have not had an unaddressed flyer for perhaps 15 (or more) years.

I read, mark and clip out deals from the local flyers before I walk to stores.

My local NoFrills won't send out flyers - they want us to go to their website. Where the print's too small to read and won't enlarge enough; I can't clip out the deals I want and my handwriting's to bad for me to copy down and read in the store; and I get peppered with pop-ups to subscribe to spam E-mails and Trojan apps.

I end up bent over in front of the flyers posted in the stores, with a magnifier in hand, trying to spot what I will want. Pain. They don't even have flyers for me to study if I ask for a copy.

There's not much I get in the mail that I'd throw out. Mostly pizza and real-estate ads.

Or apps like Flipp, which can pull up TONS of local flyers, create shopping lists, comparison shop, create watchlists and alerts, and use for price-matching at some stores, etc

AltaRed said
Imagine if the contractors delivering mail to community superboxes were paid $32/hr to deliver mail to these boxes, probably eliminating at least 10 letter carriers door-to-door, when a high school dropout with a driver's license could do this at minimum wage, or even $25/hr if we wish to be kind about 'living wage'. It does not take any skill beyond a high school drop out to be a letter carrier of any stripe (door to door or driving to a community super box). It is grunt work. Why pay more for this than we do a labourer handling materials on a construction site?  

It's not even about the wages being too high. Besides, you wouldn't be able to find workers for $18-23 per hour to do the type of work you're talking about, without any kind of benefits and being an "independent contractor." Just not going to happen.

The reality is, the Collective Agreement is very strong. Even if Canada Post were dissolved legally speaking, there is likely worker portability language in the Agreement that would see the Agreement carry over to any successor entity.

Both the corporation and the workers, through the union, will need to give on some key sticking points. Maybe the company withdraws its proposal to end the practice of trapped time and gives a bit more on wages and in exchange, the union allows for more hiring of regular, part-time employees and shifts that work Monday to Saturday without overtime pay being involved and the corporation, in turn, gives up on its desire to employ Sunday workers.

The federal government also has a role to play here, too, and it's a bigger one. It needs to implement the recommendations of the Industrial Inquiry Commission, including amending the Canada Post Act, the Postal Charter, and realizing that if Canada wants to maintain a postal service, as it should, it needs to realize Canada Post can't be expected to be financially self-sustaining and that it needs an indefinite annual subsidy, pegged to the CPI. It doesn't expect Service Canada or the CRA to generate a profit; it shouldn't expect Canada Post to, either.

The postal workers are the 2025 version of the Luddites.

History is repeating itself.

Private companies certainly screw up on physical deliveries and charging mechanisms in many ways small and big but all of it falls into insignificance when compared to a ginormous boondoggle called Canada Post which is costing us $10M a day for terrible service now and for decades to come - even if it were to be disbanded tomorrow. And they can’t even be fined because CP is bankrupt and the money would be coming out of our own pocket.

Lets hope the strike lasts long enough to kill CP so we can stop throwing good money after bad.

COIN said
How does pay and benefits for private company staff compare to what Canada Post pay?

I heard from a real Canada Post mail carrier a few years ago that he is paid for 7-8 hours for a shift he can complete in 4 hours.  

Canada Post benefits:

- up to 7 weeks paid vacation (depending on years of service)
- 7 “personal days” every year.
- defined benefit, taxpayer guaranteed pension
- health/dental benefits (5% of dental costs are paid out of pocket)
- etc.

Not bad for something one can qualify for by finishing 3 grades at school. I am guessing Amazon drivers delivering orders same/next day to rural areas don’t get any of the above.