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                    <title>doug on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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<p><strong>hwyc said </strong><br />
... Search for Vancity led me to this archived forum, might as well leave a mark.</p>
<p>Vancity Community Investment Bank (<strong>VCIB</strong>) was founded in 2017, when Vancouver City Savings Credit Union (Vancity) relaunched its national subsidiary, <strong>Citizens Bank</strong> of Canada, as Canada’s first Schedule 1 community investment bank.</p>
<p>Then VCIB acquired <strong>CoPower</strong> in 2019  </p>
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<p>They subsequently wound down and wound up the CoPower business. They've also recently exited the prepaid credit card business, so their sole business line is in business lending and banking.</p>
<p>Their former CEO, Jay-Ann Gilfoy, is now the CEO of Motus Bank.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 09:42:26 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>hwyc on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>... Search for Vancity led me to this archived forum, might as well leave a mark.</p>
<p>Vancity Community Investment Bank (<strong>VCIB</strong>) was founded in 2017, when Vancouver City Savings Credit Union (Vancity) relaunched its national subsidiary, <strong>Citizens Bank</strong> of Canada, as Canada’s first Schedule 1 community investment bank.</p>
<p>Then VCIB acquired <strong>CoPower</strong> in 2019</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 09:13:34 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>doug on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3224</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I believe BMO has a banking plan that is competitive with RBC's Day-to-Day Banking Account with MultiProduct rebate or Scotiabank's GAIN Plan chequing/savings (yes, you can write cheques on the GAIN Plan account - this is the account I have). BMO will waive your monthly fee on their banking packages when you maintain a balance of at least $1000 (small amount). You can keep higher amounts in your account to get larger package fees waived too. CIBC no longer has a fee waiver account - they seem to be the only one so I wouldn't recommend them.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:42:27 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>djino on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3222</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>These days though, I believe the best way to minimize banking fees while keeping a relationship with the Big 5 is to sign up with either their savings accounts or a pay per use checking account and use a credit card for all day to day transactions then pay your credit card balance in full by the statement due date to avoid any credit card interest charges.</p>
<p>Example: </p>
<p>Scotia Bank has the Gain savings account that allows you to make 2 free transactions (no monthly fees).</p>
<p>National Bank of Canada has their pay per use checking account (65 cents / transaction).</p>
<p>TD Bank has their Investment GIA saving account that allows for 1 or 2 transactions a month (no monthly fees).</p>
<p>I already mentioned Royal Bank in the previous post.</p>
<p>I have not checked BMO and CIBC yet, but I'm sure they have similar products.</p>
<p>Then use a credit card like MBNA's Smart Cash Card (or even a credit card offered by the Bank you have a checking/savings with) for all daily transaction. Remember, with credit cards you do not pay on a transaction basis. You only pay should you carry a balance from month to month (which would NOT be the case if you paid the statement balance by the statement due date).</p>
<p>This way you are only paying for transactions that you cannot complete via credit card which should not be as much as you may think over the course of a month.</p>
<p>djino</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:15:18 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>djino on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3221</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would recommend <strong>Royal Bank's Day to Day Checking account</strong> if you want to have a relationship with one of the Big 5 banks, without having to keep a high monthly balance and without having to keep tens to hundreds thousand dollars in investment accounts.</p>
<p>Day to Day checking account gives you 15 transactions per month which is a cost of $4/month.</p>
<p>BUT, if you open up a rewards credit card with RBC and any type of investment (RRSP, TFSA, etc) account (I had the Rewards GOLD Visa -- no annual fee with a RRSP account that only has had a $10 balance for the past year) you will get a <strong>Multi- Product monthly rebate</strong> in the amount of $4, which makes the Day to Day Checking account free.</p>
<p>I'd say from out of the Big 5, this is the best offer out there.</p>
<p>I would also recommend PC Financial (as Doug has above), as you you can simply open the one Checking account (without having to open up any other products and without having a minimum balance) and you get unlimited free checking with free checks. BUT you do not have access to a teller (ie, the banking relationship you can have with the Big 5). All banking is done online, phone, and by ATM.</p>
<p>djino</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:01:56 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>doug on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3201</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You have to remember that performing day-to-day banking transactions in branches is the highest cost delivery channel for financial institutions (banks and credit unions alike). It costs a lot of money to build a branch - it's at least $1 million in capital costs to construct the building and ongoing monthly lease costs are between $10,000-$20,000 per month. Factor in an average initial FTE complement of 7.5 staff operating at around $287,500 per year for employee salaries (not including benefits and pension/group RRSP costs). A new branch operates unprofitably at anywhere from three to seven years from initial opening, on average, based on anecdotal back-of-the-napkin type calculations.</p>
<p>If you really don't want to pay for all of this, I would recommend direct banking options or look for accounts that give you so many transactions for maintaining a small monthly balance. Some good options to consider include:</p>
<p>* Canadian Western Bank or its direct banking division, Canadian Direct Financial, which offer free unlimited banking including cheque writing privileges and free initial cheque order (might be able to squeak extra cheque orders out of them at no charge so long as it's not more than one every two years) if you hold $5000 in great rate, non-redeemable GIC or your chequing account. Plus, with CWB, when you call their branch number, you get a real live person located at the branch and not in a call centre. It's like credit union banking with the security, safety and regulatory provisions of chartered banks</p>
<p>* ICICI Bank Canada - Free unlimited banking with $500 monthly balance and connected to The Exchange Network of surcharge-free ATMs</p>
<p>* President's Choice Financial - Free unlimited banking and free cheques through the direct banking division of CIBC. Also offers a great MasterCard product through President's Choice Bank, wholly-owned by Loblaw Companies and its back-end managed by MBNA Canada Bank</p>
<p>There are others, such as BMO and the credit unions. These are a selected few I like though have never used.</p>
<p>Hope that helps,<br />
Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:02:35 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>msl25 on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3198</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>they should refund you. but that is only in our "good" mind. so they won't. you are right, bank needs all those service fees to have higher buildings and more branches. i feel your pain comrad. the problem is that the bank will always find ways to charge up some fees to us in exchange of that 1.00% interest (some bank even give 0.0% percent. </p>
<p>The only thing we can do is find other banks that have lower fees. But in your case, it might because of "SENTIMENTAL" reason that's why you cant give up on Vancity. Vancity is your bank since 1997? that's a long relationship already me friend. My first bank is also Scotiabank, and after this time, all those fees i paid, i should have already bailed out and bank with other banks but i can't simply because I have already set-up some automatic contribution and withdrawal with that account. But I tell you, my bank [scotia] is also a sucker for fees. And their customer service is i say just borderline average.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:05:47 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>jude on service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3196</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>i have had an account with vancity since 1997.i opened it in person at the branch.it was a checking account because i wanted to use it to pay rent.i called in many times over the years about excessive service charges but was only ever informed about the electronic package which is $7 monthly for unlimited transactions.i only ever wrote 19 cheques over a ten year period.finally in 2007 a service rep told me about the plan 24 account which has 10 free transactions a month.i couldn't believe that after all my calls,no one had ever told me about it and it has existed for over 40 years.when i complained to management they said maybe it was because i had a checking account.isn't that a stupid answer considering that i could use my plan 24 for the 10 free transactions and transfer funds into my checking account the rare times it was used? another told me it was up to me to inform myself.isn't that what i was doing? i have only had internet for the past few months.i have never had a satisfactory answer.i think it's because they make more money when you pay for services rather than getting them for free.i think they should refund me for money wasted.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:16 -0700</pubDate>
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                    <title>doug on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/citizens-bank-is-closing/page-2/#p2847</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you live in B.C., you could hold a VanCity chequing account with $1000 in it and continue to have an unlimited, surcharge-fee chequing account and never pay a monthly fee. You could also have a Coast Capital Savings chequing account with no monthly fee and just pay for your chequebook orders.</p>
<p>Other options include:<br />
* ICICI Bank (monthly fee waived with $500 minimum balance)<br />
* Canadian Direct Financial (so many free debit transactions for every $1000 of minimum balance)<br />
* HSBC Bank Canada's Advance Savings account (only able to be opened online through Personal Internet Banking once you've opened a High Rate Savings account; no cheques permitted though)<br />
* Scotiabank, BMO Bank of Montreal and CIBC all have great accounts where the monthly fee is waived for as little as $1000 of minimum monthly balance and they have large branch networks</p>
<p>Hope that helps,<br />
Doug</p>
<p>P.S. What route are you taking, Peter? You live in B.C., right, so you could theoretically open a VanCity account. 🙂</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:31:12 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>Prag on Download your account history before your Citizens Bank account closes</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/#p2843</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip. I had forgotten to do this and better get it done soon!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:28:25 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>Peter on Download your account history before your Citizens Bank account closes</title>
                    <link>https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/#p2840</link>
                    <category>Citizens Bank</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You can export your entire transaction history (up to 7 years) to Quicken, QuickBooks, Microsoft Money, Simply Accounting, CSV / Excel / OpenOffice Calc, or PDF.  This will be especially useful if you're asked to prove something on a tax return in the future.  Just click on the Account Activity link on the left of the banking interface to get this form:</p>
<p><img src="https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/citizens_bank_account_activity.png" alt="Export account history" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>guest on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was also very disappointed and looked for an ethical bank for a long time.  </p>
<p>I transfered my savings including a Tax Free Savings Account to Outlook Financial  <a href="http://www.outlookfinancial.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.outlookfinancial.com</a></p>
<p>From Outlook's website:  "Outlook is a division of Assiniboine Credit Union, one of the most respected financial co-operatives in Canada. Located in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Assiniboine's commitment to doing business in a way that is financially sound and socially, environmentally and ethically responsible has been recognized locally, nationally, and internationally."  You can read much more about their ethical policies and practices on Assiniboine's website <a href="http://www.assiniboine.mb.ca" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.assiniboine.mb.ca</a><br />
Outlook is in Manitoba but you can live anywhere. </p>
<p>Outlook is an online bank and they have some of the highest rates in Canada, but they don't have a chequing account.  Although, with the High Interest Savings Account you do get a few free cheques &#038; an ATM card so you have easy access to your funds if needed, but there is a $1 fee for each transaction except the first one per month which is free.  </p>
<p>For now I am using VISA cheques since they are free and I only use about 6 cheques at year.  They are charged interest from day 1 just like a cash advance.  If you use Visa cheques just make sure to pay off the cheques plus all charges that are posted before the cheque (since payments are applied to the oldest posted transactions first) on the day the cheque is posted to avoid fees.  I am considering opening a Presidents Choice chequing account since their are no monthly fees. </p>
<p>I moved my USD Account to ING Direct. </p>
<p>Duca Financial and Achieva Financial were others I considered.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:20:02 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>ET on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was also disappointed that Citizen's Bank closed. I transferred all my funds to Vancity. I am still in the process of figuring out the specifics of my accounts, as I have moved and got married.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:46:36 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>edg on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would really like to keep my Citizens account as a Vancity account but I need a BC address to do that, anyone willing to let me use their address, I'd be so grateful.</p>
<p>Thank you very much.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:06:23 -0800</pubDate>
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                    <title>kilarney on Citizens Bank is closing</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>at 2 percent for a savings account why not ALLY???   I have had no problems since recently opening an account?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:57:31 -0800</pubDate>
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