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		<title>American Express Business Gold Rewards credit card review</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The heavily advertised American Express Business Gold Rewards credit card has a few intriguing features:

a welcome bonus of 25,000 Membership Rewards points if you spend $3,000 in the first 3 months; convertible to Aeroplan miles, SkyMiles, or Asia Miles. 25,000 Aeroplan points is good for an economy ticket within almost anywhere in Canada and the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heavily advertised American Express Business Gold Rewards credit card has a few intriguing features:</p>
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<li>a welcome bonus of 25,000 Membership Rewards points if you spend $3,000 in the first 3 months; convertible to <a href="http://www.aeroplan.com" title="Separate from Air Canada now">Aeroplan</a> miles, <a href="http://www.delta.com/skymiles" title="Delta Airlines">SkyMiles</a>, or <a href="http://www.asiamiles.com/" title="Cathay Pacific">Asia Miles</a>. 25,000 Aeroplan points is good for an economy ticket within almost anywhere in Canada and the US.</li>
<li>annual fee waived for the first year; supplementary cards free for the first year as well</li>
<li>earn one point for every dollar spent</li>
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<p><img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/american_express_business_gold_rewards.jpg" alt="American Express Business Gold Rewards card" /></p>
<p>I signed up for this card for the bonus points and to see what it was like to have an <a href="http://www.americanexpress.com/canada" title="Any extra perks?">American Express</a> card.  A note on applying for a business credit card: if you don&#8217;t own a business, you can still legitimately claim to run a business under your own name as long as you have even a small amount of outside income.  Even though I own a business, I did not apply for this card under that business name.</p>
<h3>Premium service</h3>
<p>American Express is known for having the highest-spending users (not me!), relatively high annual fees, and for requiring merchants to sign separate and sometimes exclusive agreements with them. As a result, American Express takes good care of its customers.  Three main things stood out to me:</p>
<ul>
<li>The application process was easy.  You can apply online and the approval process happens either immediately or within about a week if they need to verify any details.  Once you&#8217;re approved, your card arrives in about another week.  Customer service for this process was straightforward and friendly.</li>
<li>The online management interface is fully-featured and easy to use.  Tasks like viewing past statements, signing up for e-statements, viewing spending reports broken down by type of purchase, changing account details, and making account requests are intuitive and accessible.</li>
<li>Points appear immediately. You don&#8217;t have to wait for your next statement for your account be credited with points. Transferring the points to Aeroplan is simple, and sometimes there are even redemption promotions.</li>
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<p>As simple as those things sound, many credit card companies and banks fail to achieve such a pleasant level of service.</p>
<h3>Extra perks</h3>
<p>The main perk that I&#8217;ve benefited from is AMEX&#8217;s <a href="http://www.americanexpress.com/canada/frontoftheline/" title="Handy to have">Front of the Line</a> for buying event tickets.  For the average person, Front of the Line provides two main benefits: pre-sales access and reserved seating blocks during normal sales.  This is quite nice to have, but treat it more like an extra option when looking for seats.  Sometimes, using other types of fan pre-sale codes, or buying tickets during the normal sales period early or with good timing luck can yield better seats.  Tickets purchased through Front of the Line privileges are sometimes but not always better.</p>
<h3>It&#8217;s not that widely accepted</h3>
<p>I was a bit fearful that American Express would have a low acceptance rate, compared to Visa or MasterCard.  For me in Vancouver, Canada, AMEX is accepted at noticeably fewer places, so much so that it has become an annoyance to ask companies whether they accept the card.</p>
<p>Lots of commonly frequented places accept American Express, such as London Drugs, parking machines, major grocery stores, and gas stations.  However, I&#8217;ve had to use a Visa or MasterCard backup at several restaurants, retail stores such as Swimco, the dentist office, an optician store, and <a href="http://www.choicesmarket.com/" title="Smaller grocer">Choices Markets</a>.  Also, some online merchants that accept credit card payments through PayPal might not necessarily accept American Express, due to the need to sign a separate vendor agreement.  The rate of American Express acceptance at places that I&#8217;ve been to that accept credit cards is potentially as bad as 50%.</p>
<h3>Annual fee</h3>
<p>After the first year of no-fee bliss, the annual fee is $180 for the first card and $50 for each supplementary card.</p>
<h3>Aeroplan points</h3>
<p>I cannot comment on the value of SkyMiles or Asia Miles, but I do collect <a href="http://www.aeroplan.com" title="Separate from Air Canada now">Aeroplan</a> points. The value of an Aeroplan point is <a href="http://thoughtsfrommylife.com/article-91-Collecting_Aeroplan_Points_and_Their_Value" title="Nice assessment, pegging it at 1.6 cents per point">open to debate</a>, and depends on how you use your points. If you&#8217;re looking for an airline rewards card or even just a rewards card, is it worth it to collect Aeroplan points?  Consider the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>The <a href="http://www2.aeroplan.com/use_your_miles/travel/flights/air_reward_chart.do" title="Divided into regions">reward chart</a> is quite general, as it divides routes into broad regions. For example, most long-haul economy flights within Canada and the USA can be had for 25,000 points &#8212; you&#8217;re getting the most value if you fly from one corner of that area to the opposite corner.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s more worth it to the Aeroplan credit card reward points if you&#8217;re also collecting Aeroplan points elsewhere!</li>
<li>You cannot redeem all of your points at once, so there&#8217;s always some left over.</li>
<li>You still have to pay some airline ticket fees. If you end up redeeming Aeroplan points for a flight that you wouldn&#8217;t otherwise have taken, you&#8217;re technically spending more and also polluting the earth more!</li>
<li>The pool of available Aeroplan seats is smaller than the total available seats.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>Some areas that I have not touched upon include interest rates and insurance features.  These are not very important to me at the moment.</p>
<p>The sign-up bonus is certainly valuable, as is the reward structure.  If you&#8217;re looking to earn Aeroplan points on an ongoing basis, there are cards from CIBC (such as the Aerogold Visa) with a lower annual fee and that give you more points per dollar spent.  Also, there might be some other American Express cards with a more suitable fee + reward calculation structure.</p>
<p>As for rewards in general, I prefer a cash back card such as the <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/credit-card-reward-programs/mbnas-smart-cash-card-best-cashback-credit-card-ever" title="MasterCard">MBNA Smart Cash credit card</a>, which has no annual fee.  When you get cash back, you can choose to spend it on whatever you want, and you don&#8217;t have so much of an issue with leftover points.</p>
<p>The deal breakers for me with the American Express Business Gold Rewards were the annual fee after the first year, and the high percentage of companies that simply didn&#8217;t accept it.</p>
<p>And a final note: the shiny gold card is a bit too flashy for my taste!  Sometimes I feel that when I bring it out, I&#8217;m trying to appear wealthier or more obsessed with status than I actually am&#8230;</p>
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		<title>CIBC bizline VISA: the optimal no-fee, no-reward credit card for Canadian small businesses</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When searching for a Canadian personal credit card, there are tons of options without annual fees.  I can then pick and choose from those options for the one with the best rewards structure.
When it comes to a business credit card, however, the options are a lot more limited. A good place to start is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When searching for a Canadian personal credit card, there are tons of options without annual fees.  I can then pick and choose from those options for the one with the best rewards structure.</p>
<p>When it comes to a business credit card, however, the options are a lot more limited. A good place to start is the <a href="http://creditcards.redflagdeals.com/t/Business-Credit-Cards" title="Good ol' RFD">RedFlagDeals.com credit card directory</a>.</p>
<p>I run a relatively small web development company and 3 of us needed to have credit cards.  Mainly, we wanted to simplify the administrative hassle around continuously writing cheques to reimburse our business purchases, which include travel expenses, equipment and supplies, external services, and meals and entertainment.  After a rather thorough search, we ended up choosing the <a href="http://www.cibc.com/ca/small-business/credit-cards/bizline-visa.html" title="Link to its informational page">CIBC bizline VISA</a>.  Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<h3>No fee</h3>
<p>The annual fee for the CIBC bizline VISA is $0.  You can have up to 9 additional cards at no extra charge.</p>
<h3>No rewards or points</h3>
<p>Generally, getting rewards from a credit card is considered beneficial.  But after we weighed the fees (no matter how nominal) against the rewards on other cards, it simply wasn&#8217;t worth the administrative effort to us.  Accounting for the fees and managing and using the points, not to mention any possible taxable benefits coming out of the rewards if awarded for personal use, actually seemed like a cost.</p>
<p>Without rewards, we can keep the purpose of the cards simple and as intended.</p>
<h3>Accepted at many places</h3>
<p>While American Express has a few tempting cards, for the purpose of putting as many business purchases as possible on a card, VISA and MasterCard are simply safer bets.</p>
<h3>Consolidated statements</h3>
<p>With the CIBC bizline VISA accout, each cardholder gets his/her own card and card number in his/her name.  However, all cards on our account are tracked on the same statement.  This contrasted with some other cards we looked at, where each card had a separate statement.  We&#8217;re small enough that we can quickly tell which charge was by who and for what, and it is administratively easier to only have to deal with one statement.</p>
<p>An added bonus is that the CIBC online interface is quite nice to work with.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/cibc_bizline_transactions.png" alt="CIBC bizline VISA online interface" /></p>
<p>You can even break down transactions by type:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/cibc_bizline_spend_details.png" alt="CIBC bizline VISA online spend report" /></p>
<h3>Simple application process</h3>
<p>You can apply for the <a href="http://www.cibc.com/ca/small-business/credit-cards/bizline-visa.html" title="Link to its informational page">CIBC bizline VISA</a> completely online. The process took less than ten minutes for us. It asked for information including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Primary cardholder&#8217;s address, phone number, date of birth, and income</li>
<li>Additional cardholders&#8217; address, phone number, and date of birth</li>
<li>Business information: years in operation, annual revenue, business type, nature of business, primary bank</li>
</ul>
<p>We received our cards about two weeks later.</p>
<p>When we had previously investigated getting credit cards through our primary financial institution (not CIBC), they wanted us to go into the branch, fill out significantly more information, and do credit checks on all of us. To be fair, that was not the main reason why we went with the CIBC bizline VISA (and we didn&#8217;t have anything to hide), but it didn&#8217;t help.<br />
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<h3>Miscellaneous details</h3>
<ul>
<li>The CIBC bizline VISA comes with a PIN, which is the first time I&#8217;ve ever had a card with a PIN.  Extra security, but also an extra number to remember <img src='http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>We don&#8217;t ever intend on using our cards for actual credit loans, but the interest rate on the card is between 1.5% and 11% above CIBC&#8217;s prime rate.</li>
<li>The card doesn&#8217;t include many insurance benefits. However, for things such as travel medical insurance, we use our normal benefits provider.</li>
</ul>
<p>As a whole, the CIBC bizline VISA is simple and straightforward.  Several of us charge our business purchases to it, and we pay it off every month. That&#8217;s it.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/credit-card-reward-programs/review-of-amexs-business-gold-rewards-card/">Review of AMEX&#8217;s Business Gold Rewards card</a></p>
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		<title>Peoples Trust review: feature overview and opening an account – By James</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note: There are 2 different banks called &#8220;Peoples Trust Company&#8221;. This article refers to the CDIC-insured Canadian bank &#8220;Peoples Trust&#8221; found online at peoplestrust.com.  The main office is located in Vancouver and all references to Peoples Trust in this article refer to this bank. (The other bank at peoplestrustcompany.com is based in Vermont.)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Note: There are 2 different banks called &#8220;Peoples Trust Company&#8221;. This article refers to the CDIC-insured Canadian bank &#8220;Peoples Trust&#8221; found online at <a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com" title="Peoples Trust in Canada">peoplestrust.com</a>.  The main office is located in Vancouver and all references to Peoples Trust in this article refer to this bank. (The other bank at <a href="http://www.peoplestrustcompany.com">peoplestrustcompany.com</a> is based in Vermont.)</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com" title="Peoples Trust in Canada">Peoples Trust</a> is a CDIC-insured bank based out of Vancouver BC, Canada, and with branches in Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto.  While Peoples Trust is not an online bank, they do allow for electronic transfer of funds to and from other Canadian financial institutions.  However, in order to keep their costs low and offer the best interest rates possible, they do not offer all of the typical services you get at most other banks.</p>
<p>In their own words (source: <a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com">peoplestrust.com</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Peoples Trust has become a very successful provider of financial services by combining price competitive products with truly exceptional customer service and support. Recognizing that a smaller organization cannot compete effectively in all areas, the company carefully examined the financial services industry and selected a number of product lines which could be offered with real added value. The compact nature of the organization ensures that operating overhead is well controlled and contained, resulting in the ability of the company to pass on these cost savings to you, the customers, in the form of improved interest rates&#8230; lower for borrowers and higher for investors.</p>
<p>Assets consist mainly of conventional and insured loans on predominantly multi-family residential properties located in major urban centers. Investor Services Focus on traditional short and long term RRSP and GIC products, together with mortgage banking for institutional investors. The company is particularly active in the Mortgage-Backed Securitization program as an Issuer. </p>
<p>Peoples Trust maintains a unique and enviable position among Canada&#8217;s financial institutions as a result of long-term profitability, steady asset growth and the ability to perform above and beyond customers&#8217; expectations.</p></blockquote>
<h3>Why did I decide to try Peoples Trust?</h3>
<p>Given the current state of the economy and low interest rates, a savings account rate of 4.0% is certainly enough to catch anyone&#8217;s attention (this only recently fell to 3.6%, which is still significantly higher than <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/chart" title="Rate comparison chart">other banks</a>).  Offering a rate higher than many GICs (and even higher than some Mutual Funds as of January 2009!), there is certainly incentive to &#8220;test the waters&#8221; with a new financial institution.  But is there a catch?  At the end of this article, we&#8217;ll review some of the pros and cons.  But first, let&#8217;s go through the account opening process.</p>
<h3>Opening an account with Peoples Trust</h3>
<p>You can access the full <a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com/Deposits-Terms-Conditions/PeoplesChoiceSavings%20TermsConditions(public).pdf">Peoples Choice Savings account terms and conditions here</a>.</p>
<p>To open an account with Peoples Trust, visit:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com/depositSerives.htm">http://www.peoplestrust.com/depositSerives.htm</a></p>
<p>and under &#8220;Peoples Choice Savings Account&#8221; click &#8220;purchase&#8221;.  This will bring you to the online application form.  The application process is straightforward and after submitting, you will receive a confirmation e-mail that looks like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for placing your savings with Peoples Trust!</p>
<p>You chose to place your savings in a Peoples Choice Savings Account and will begin earning interest from the day your first cheque/deposit is received by Peoples Trust. Your terms and rates are listed below.</p>
<p>If you have chosen to pay by Personal Cheque, please make it payable to yourself and mail it with your confirmation number written on the front to:</p>
<p>Peoples Trust Company<br />
1400-888 Dunsmuir St.<br />
Vancouver, BC V6C 3K4</p>
<p>If your funds are being transferred by Electronic Funds Transfer, your deposit will be processed on the next business day.<br />
We will send you an official confirmation with your account details as soon as your deposit is received and processed.</p>
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Confirmation Number : xxxx<br />
Product : Peoples Choice Savings Account<br />
Term : n/a<br />
Rate : 4.000<br />
Amount : $xxx<br />
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<p>Here&#8217;s what might set off a red flag for you: the cheque must be made payable to &#8220;Peoples Trust Company&#8221;.  I must admit, this made me nervous, so I did some due diligence.  I verified the Peoples Trust address with the CDIC, and made out a cheque for a much smaller amount than my full deposit.  In a few weeks (yes, it takes that long), I received my Peoples Trust package in the mail with the initial &#8220;starter cheques&#8221; and account information.</p>
<h3>Transactions</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com" title="Peoples Trust in Canada">Peoples Trust</a> offers no online banking capabilities.  This means that you cannot check your balance or pay bills online.  Also, only the first 5 transactions of the month are free (after the 5 transaction limit, there is a $1.50 charge per withdrawal, as of January 2009).  </p>
<p>Notable features include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Deposit a cheque by mail or personal delivery to a branch</li>
<li>Write cheques on your savings account</li>
<li>Transfer funds between your savings account and an external account at another financial institution (initiated by your external bank)</li>
<li>Transfers usually take about 1 business day and cannot be cancelled once initiated (you need to wait until the money has transferred, and then transfer it back again)</li>
<li>Set up or authorize withdrawals via phone or e-mail</li>
<li>Set up pre-authorized, automatic deposits into your Peoples Trust account</li>
<li>Check your balance and transaction history by phone</li>
</ul>
<p>Notable omissions include:</p>
<ul>
<li>No bill payment service</li>
<li>No ATM or debit card service</li>
<li>No electronic fund transfer to other account holders</li>
<li>All correspondence with Peoples Trust must be done via phone, e-mail (deposits AT peoplestrust DOT com), or by visiting a branch.  This is also the case if you wish to take advantage of the other services offered by Peoples Trust (such as opening a GIC or an RRSP).</li>
</ul>
<h3>Pros</h3>
<ul>
<li>The interest rate posted is accurate, and paid monthly!</li>
<li>You can write cheques on your account (you get 4 free cheques with your starter kit, after that the minimum order is $29.00 for 50 cheques).</li>
<li>There are no hidden fees (when you keep your transactions to the limit of 5 per month), no minimum balance, and your funds are indeed CDIC insured for the standard $100,000 per account holder.</li>
<li>You get a monthly account statement via postal mail.</li>
<li>Good customer service: I was pleasantly surprised with the polite, helpful staff at Peoples Trust.  The best way to get in touch with a representative, I have found, is by e-mail, which is usually replied to within 24 hours.  While some might prefer a phone call, I much prefer e-mail to waiting for 15+ minutes on hold for a phone representative at some other high interest accounts (as I&#8217;m sure we all have experienced!)</li>
</ul>
<h3>Cons:</h3>
<ul>
<li>Of all the Canadian banks, Peoples Trust places the longest hold time on your deposits: up to 9 days. This, combined with the 5 transaction per month limit, means that if you&#8217;re very active with your account, you may want to hold an additional account for your main banking purposes, and consider Peoples Trust as more of an investment option than a daily bank account.</li>
<li>While you are sent a written monthly statement, Peoples Trust does not have online banking capabilities.  This means that you can&#8217;t check your account balance or transactions using their website.  However, you can link your Peoples Trust account with another online account and access your money via your ING, HSBC, PC Financial, and other online accounts (explained next).</li>
</ul>
<h3>How to link a Peoples Trust account to your other online accounts</h3>
<p>Recall that electronic transfers between your <a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com" title="Peoples Trust in Canada">Peoples Trust account and other institution&#8217;s account(s) are initiated from your other institution&#8217;s account(s).</a></p>
<p>Normally, to link 2 different online accounts, you would need to submit a personalized, void cheque from one institution to other the institution where you want to initialize transfers.  However, in your starter kit from Peoples Trust, you are only given 4 cheques, none of which are personalized (with your name and address).  Most of the online banks you call will insist that they will not accept anything but a personalized, void cheque in order to link accounts.  This is not true!</p>
<p>Once you have opened an account with Peoples Trust and applied online with another financial institution to have your account linked, simply e-mail Peoples Trust and ask them to send an &#8220;account verification&#8221; to link to your other account (at HSBC, PC Financial, etc.).  They require a fax number, address, and the name of a contact person in order to do this, but it will save you 30 bucks for the personalized cheques!  It will take some time, but when completed, you will be able to transfer funds in and out of your Peoples Trust account electronically!</p>
<h3>Summary</h3>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a place to park your money until this unstable market settles (and beyond), <a href="http://www.peoplestrust.com" title="Peoples Trust in Canada">Peoples Trust</a> looks like a great option!  Just be aware that you may need to do a little planning if you want to move your money in and out of this account.</p>
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<p>March 17, 2009<br />7:13 am by<br />Brad Nailer<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/peoples-trust/peoples-trust-savings-anyone-have-an-account-with/#p1392">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>July 30, 2010<br />2:18 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/peoples-trust/peoples-trust-savings-anyone-have-an-account-with/#p3306">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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		<title>ING Direct&#8217;s smart business practices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disclaimer: in this article I aim to discuss ING Direct&#8217;s business practices &#8212; mostly their marketing efforts &#8212; only.  It is certainly a neverending discussion on which banks back this all up with a good product (rate and features) and good service.
I&#8217;ve always thought that ING Direct Canada&#8217;s business approach is smart, from its [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer: in this article I aim to discuss ING Direct&#8217;s business practices &#8212; mostly their marketing efforts &#8212; only.  It is certainly a neverending <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum" title="highinterestsavings.ca forum">discussion</a> on which banks back this all up with a good product (rate and features) and good service.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that ING Direct Canada&#8217;s business approach is smart, from its branding to its overall marketing to how it treats its customers.  Over the years, it has projected a rather straightforward message about no hidden fees and good rates.  This is complemented by an <a href="http://www.ingdirect.ca" title="ING Direct Canada's website">uncluttered website</a> and a smart referral program.  (In general, a referral program is usually a good idea, as it encourages people to recommend your product or company without having to pay them as employees.  And, of course, you are not only getting new, high-quality customers &#8212; not just iffy leads &#8212; but you also take no risk until you&#8217;ve actually signed up a customer.)</p>
<p>ING Direct wasn&#8217;t the pioneer of high interest savings in Canada, but many people might think that it was. And even though the majority of other Canadian banks and credit unions have created high interest savings accounts (<a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/chart" title="See the chart">some which</a> have higher interest rates), ING Direct remains a strong player. So it has been doing something right all along.  Of course, the savings account isn&#8217;t the only &#8220;product&#8221; that ING Direct offers, but that account is a very important entry point for people to do other, more lucrative business with ING Direct, with mutual funds, mortgages, business accounts, and more.</p>
<p>Out of the blue, I recently got a package in the mail from ING Direct consisting of:</p>
<p>- The 272-page book <a href="<br />
http://theorangecodebook.com/" title="Book about how ING Direct started">The Orange Code: How ING Direct succeeded by being a rebel with a cause</a>.</p>
<p>- A letter explaining their expanded referral program (both the referrer and the referree still get $13; however, they raised the limit from 20 referrals to 50 referrals, and extra monetary bonuses after you&#8217;ve referred 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 friends:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ing_direct_new_referafriend.png" alt="Summary of ING Direct's new refer-a-friend structure" /></p>
<p>&#8211; This letter also notified me that ING Direct had made a deposit to my account for back-dated referral money from before the referral program was changed. (I was lucky to refer over 20 people a couple of years ago from <a href="http://www.theblog.ca/online-banking" title="The precursor to this site">this post</a>.)</p>
<p>Why is this smart?</p>
<p>By sending the package in the first place, they are showing some customers that they care.</p>
<p>With the free book, they are enticing customers to learn more about them. Presumably, this will spur readers to talk about the book and the story behind ING Direct. (Note: I haven&#8217;t read the book yet.)</p>
<p>The revamped referral program structure is designed to get influencers to work cheaply for ING Direct.  When I say &#8220;influencers&#8221; I mean consumers that other consumers listen to, providing free, effective, word of mouth advertising, provided that the influencers actually like your company.  If you have the capability to refer up to 50 people, you are probably well connected or have an opinion or channel that people respect. ING clearly wants those people on their side!</p>
<p>By back-dating the benefits of a program, you help to keep your existing customers and once again get them to recommend you to others.  So many times <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum" title="highinterestsavings.ca forum">in the forums</a>, I&#8217;ve noticed people complain about how a bank&#8217;s new promotion doesn&#8217;t apply to existing customers.  In other words, those banks usually project an attitude of only caring about sucking people in, but not in treating them well once they&#8217;re customers.</p>
<p>I have a friend who received a similar package from ING Direct at the same time as me.  Her reaction was: &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t believe they gave me $50.  I love them!&#8221;  I&#8217;m not quite as enthusiastic, but ING Direct certainly succeeded in many respects here.</p>
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		<title>Citizens Bank Review (British Columbian perspective) – by Julia</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have banked with Citizens Bank for just under a year, and so far have been quite happy with my experience there.
It all started about a year ago when I graduated from school and was faced with the end of my &#8217;student&#8217; account at one of the big banks. Although I had already been paying [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have banked with <a href="https://www.citizensbank.ca/Personal/" title="Citizens Bank website">Citizens Bank</a> for just under a year, and so far have been quite happy with my experience there.</p>
<p>It all started about a year ago when I graduated from school and was faced with the end of my &#8217;student&#8217; account at one of the big banks. Although I had already been paying fees (about $3.50/month, which bought me almost no services), the non-student plans were even worse. I decided it was time to explore some no-fee account options. Here is how I decided on Citizens Bank:</p>
<h4>I didn&#8217;t want to buy a membership to a bank</h4>
<p>My first line of inquiries was around credit unions, which typically have good reputations for having better fee structures. Citizens Bank is very comparable to credit unions, but it is not actually a credit union and thus you do not have to buy shares. </p>
<h4>I wanted a stable bank, where my funds were secure</h4>
<p>Citizens Bank is an &#8216;online&#8217; bank, however they do have one branch location in downtown Vancouver, which appeases any worries I have about not having any face-to-face customer services options. As well, they are owned by Vancity, which means that they have the backing of a larger group. Funds deposited at Citizens Bank are also covered by the <a href="http://www.cdic.ca" title="Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation">CDIC</a>.</p>
<h4>I wanted no-fee accounts, with high rates, and overall flexibility</h4>
<p>I was looking to have two accounts: a chequing / savings account and a high interest account. Citizens Bank had both of these, and the accounts are automatically connected. My only point of dissatisfaction with their accounts was that the chequing / savings account was not completely &#8216;fee free&#8217; (like Coast Capital Savings) as you have to keep a minimum balance ($1000) to avoid fees. However, <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/no-fee-chequing-account-from-citizens-bank-is-coming" title="No-fee chequing is coming">as has been recently announced</a>, they will have a completely free chequing / savings account shortly. This has improved my satisfaction about 30%, as I found it unreasonable that they could not match the Coast Capital &#8216;no fee&#8217; account. After all, Citizens Bank is an online bank, meaning that they save on overhead costs.</p>
<p>The high interest savings account has consistently offered one of the top interest rates all year, and is currently about .10% higher than other banks. This account could also in many instances be used as a chequing / savings account as you can make bill payments, and some debit transactions out of that account (although I still wanted a chequing / savings account).</p>
<p>The chequing / savings account has unlimited transactions, and you can use any ATM on THE EXCHANGE Network (which makes it extremely accessible, as there are many banks on that network, such as HSBC and almost all credit unions). I also got free cheques with the account, which most banks do not do – even Coast Capital). They have a very basic but functional online interface that allows for online banking with bill payments and transfers. I have found interfacing between the two accounts is completely seamless, with instant transfers. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>All these elements lead me to open my account with Citizens. I found the actual opening of the account relatively easy – I did do it in branch (because I didn&#8217;t have any cheques from my other bank), and the service in branch was good. If you have cheques you can open the account by mail. </p>
<h3>Unexpected, value-added features</h3>
<p>Since becoming a client, I have come to discover some unexpected, value-added features:</p>
<h4>Transferring funds between other Citizens clients</h4>
<p>You can transfer money to other Citizens account holders for free. This is a great paperless way to settle payments with others. There are many applications of this, including: paying rent; settling a tab with a friend; and buying something online.</p>
<h4>Memorized accounts</h4>
<p>I have only recently discovered this feature, and it makes the above mentioned item much easier to do. Basically, you can have the system save other account numbers for you, so if you frequently transfer funds to other people, you can save them as a &#8216;memorized account&#8217;. Once logged in, click the Member Services tab, then click the Manage Memorized Accounts link on the left, add an account, name it and presto. Later, when you transfer money to another Citizens Bank member, you can choose their account from the memorized list.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/transfer_memorized_accounts.png" alt="Memorized accounts dropdown list"></p>
<h4>Good customer service</h4>
<p>I have occasionally had to phone their 1-800 number for customer support. I have always found the service to be very helpful, and very efficient. There is no 20-minute long phone tree or extended wait times; they pick up right away and provide good service. They are also open 24/7; you may be anxious about having a bank with only one branch, but it&#8217;s actually more accessible than most banks as you do not have to race to the branch before it closes. Whenever you have a problem, you can just call them up and receive quick service. This was one of my biggest complaints at my previous bank, as they were open so infrequently that I could almost never get service.</p>
<h4>Corporate social responsibility (CSR)</h4>
<p>Citizens is a bank you can feel good about banking with. They have great corporate social responsibility policies. For example, they set a goal to be carbon neutral as an organization, and they have achieved it ahead of schedule. You can <a href="https://www.citizensbank.ca/Personal/AboutUs/CorporateSocialResponsibility/CarbonNeutralCommitment/" title="Citizens Bank on being carbon neutral">read about how they did it here</a>. As well, they have an annual campaign where bank clients can vote from a list of charities about where corporate donations will be made. Initiatives like these make you feel good about being aligned with the organization. Remember, money talks: if you are concerned about CSR you have to think about who you are storing your money with.</p>
<h3>Areas for improvement</h3>
<h4>Online login</h4>
<p>This is an issue I have only recently had as a complaint. Within the last 3 months they changed their online login system to add some new &#8217;security&#8217; features. You now have to enter your personal password, view a secret picture, and a secret word. Then if you have not registered your computer, or are using a public computer, you have to answer questions which you previously filled the answers in for. I hate this system. I find it cumbersome and annoying. I believe there may be a time and a place for extended security when using public computers, but I never use public computers for accessing my banking data (the best security measure of all), and therefore would have much preferred if there was an opt-in/out feature on the new security measures. That way I would not have to endure the hassle every time I log in from home, but if I knew I would be traveling or potentially using other computers, I could turn that feature on. I also question exactly how much security it adds to your account, since if someone could hack in and determine your password, why couldn&#8217;t they hack in and replicate your secret picture/word etc. </p>
<h4>No fee account</h4>
<p>As mentioned above it really bothers me that you need a minimum account balance in order to waive fees. The fact that they are apparently getting rid of this is a huge improvement.</p>
<h4>Paperless statements</h4>
<p>When I first joined I signed up to not receive my paper statements. However, I still receive them, and can&#8217;t fully figure out why. My complaint on this issue, is not one actually specific to Citizens but to all companies that try and sign you up for paperless – why can&#8217;t an option be that they email you a link to your bill every month. I don&#8217;t want to have to remember every month that it&#8217;s time to go online and check it, then have to find where it is on the website etc – this whole &#8216;paperless&#8217; thing would work much better if they would send you a link once a month. </p>
<h4>Automatic credit limit</h4>
<p>When I first opened my chequing / savings account with Citizens, they opened it with an automatic $1000 credit / overdraft approved. I did not want that, and I still don&#8217;t. This should be an opt-in/out feature. My main concern is security – if someone stole my debit card tomorrow, they could withdraw my funds plus the $1000 &#8216;credit&#8217; which I would then be on the hook for. Second, this extra $1000 is shown in your balance, so it can be confusing sometimes as to exactly how much you have if you forget to mentally deduct that $1000. Third, I find this to be sneaky behaviour on their part, as this credit comes with an extremely high interest rate in comparison to their regular lines of credit. It makes you feel that they are trying to pull a fast one on you, because if you ever make a mistake and dip into that money, you will be charged a hefty fee for that. I would prefer to take the risk of having a cheque bounce than to have this pre-approved credit. </p>
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<p>Overall, I have been happy with the service, security, and money management of Citizens Bank. I would recommend this bank to anyone.</p>
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<p>August 5, 2009<br />8:49 am by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/citizens-bank-is-closing/#p2051">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>February 23, 2010<br />9:14 pm by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/#p2840">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/">Vancity has a new high interest savings account Jumpstart?</a></p>
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<p>November 15, 2007<br />4:59 pm by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/#p120">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>January 9, 2010<br />8:34 am by<br />Sleeperz<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/#p2688">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/">Checking account functional until probably February</a></p>
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<p>December 7, 2009<br />1:08 pm by<br />Patrick<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/#p2591">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>December 7, 2009<br />1:08 pm by<br />Patrick<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/#p2591">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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		<title>No-fee chequing account from Citizens Bank is coming!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In early June 2008 Starting on September 16, 2008, Citizens Bank will introduce a no-fee, unlimited transaction chequing account called the Global Chequing Account. Their current chequing account has an $8 monthly fee unless you carry a $1,000, but that will soon change. That&#8217;s right, soon you will be able to write cheques, make your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>In early June 2008</strike> Starting on September 16, 2008, <a href="http://www.citizensbank.ca" title="My favourite bank">Citizens Bank</a> will introduce a no-fee, unlimited transaction chequing account called the <strong>Global Chequing Account</strong>. Their current chequing account has an $8 monthly fee unless you carry a $1,000, but that will soon change. That&#8217;s right, soon you will be able to write cheques, make your debit payments, use THE EXCHANGE Network, HSBC, and National Bank ATMs, and more to your heart&#8217;s content, no matter how much of a balance you maintain.</p>
<p>One-time fees such as NSF, bank drafts, and so on will still apply (as with all chequing accounts) but say goodbye to usual operating fees or monthly fees. Moreover, if you use an ATM while traveling outside of Canada, Citizens Bank will waive their portion of the fees. (The other bank might still charge something on their side).</p>
<p>While Coast Capital made the big news when they offered their no-fee chequing account a couple of years ago, I am partial to Citizens Bank to an extent because of its <a href="https://www.citizensbank.ca/Personal/Products/BankAccounts/UltimateSavingsAccount/" title="Great rate">Ultimate Savings Account</a>. That account is consistently near or at the top of the high interest savings account rates. With the new Citizens Bank chequing account, I would be able to make unlimited, instant transfers between my own accounts and to <a href="http://www.theblog.ca/citizens-bank-pay-friend" title="Very handy">other Citizens Bank accounts</a>. Essentially, I can keep the bulk of my money in the high interest account, and instantly transfer it over to the chequing account as needed.</p>
<p>Citizens Bank is mostly an online bank, which suits me well because almost all of my banking can be done electronically. However, I am also fortunate enough to live near its downtown Vancouver location, which does offer <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/?page_id=3&#038;forum=4&#038;topic=108" title="Rarely a line-up">teller service</a> (for the rare occasion that I have to deposit a US dollar cheque).</p>
<p>Ever since I opened a Citizens Bank account 4 years ago, I have become more and more of a fan. They&#8217;re owned by <a href="http://www.vancity.com" title="Go credit unions">Vancity</a>, they have great service, they&#8217;re socially responsible and green, and of course they have practical, relevant account offerings. Heck, here I am writing what is essentially a free promo for them!</p>
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<h3>Latest posts in the <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank">Citizens Bank forum</a></h3>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/">service charges,electronic packages and plan 24 savings account</a></p>
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<p>June 25, 2010<br />11:53 am by<br />jude<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3196">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>June 29, 2010<br />4:42 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/service-chargeselectronic-packages-and-plan-24-savings-account/#p3224">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/citizens-bank-is-closing/">Citizens Bank is closing</a></p>
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<p>August 5, 2009<br />8:49 am by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/citizens-bank-is-closing/#p2051">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>February 24, 2010<br />7:31 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/citizens-bank-is-closing/page-2/#p2847">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/">Download your account history before your Citizens Bank account closes</a></p>
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<p>February 23, 2010<br />9:14 pm by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/#p2840">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>February 24, 2010<br />8:28 am by<br />Prag<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/download-your-account-history-before-your-citizens-bank-account-closes/#p2843">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/">Vancity has a new high interest savings account Jumpstart?</a></p>
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<p>November 15, 2007<br />4:59 pm by<br />Peter<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/#p120">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>January 9, 2010<br />8:34 am by<br />Sleeperz<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/vancity-has-a-new-high-interest-savings-account-jumpstart/#p2688">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>Citizens Bank</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/">Checking account functional until probably February</a></p>
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<p>December 7, 2009<br />1:08 pm by<br />Patrick<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/#p2591">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>December 7, 2009<br />1:08 pm by<br />Patrick<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/citizens-bank/checking-account-functional-until-probably-february/#p2591">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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		<title>HSBC Review &#8212; review by Djino</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Below you will find my 15 month summary for the review of HSBC’s online Direct Savings Account (from early 2007 to May 2008). I came across the Direct Savings Account like many of you, trying to find a high interest savings account with the best interest rate along with the most services with minimal fees.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below you will find my 15 month summary for the review of <a href="http://www.hsbcdirect.ca/" title="Website for HSBC Direct">HSBC’s online Direct Savings Account</a> (from early 2007 to May 2008). I came across the Direct Savings Account like many of you, trying to find a high interest savings account with the best interest rate along with the most services with minimal fees.</p>
<p>I first noticed this Direct Savings Account in early 2007. I was currently using PC Financial’s no fees checking account with their 4% Interest Plus high interest savings account. I needed an all-in-one chequing / high rate savings account solution and HSBC’s Direct Savings account was definitely that and more.</p>
<p>I signed up March of 2007 with their $25 sign-up offer (under the condition that I have $100 in the account on June 27th, they would then deposit $25 by August 1st). Just as with most high rate savings accounts, to sign up, you need to complete the online savings account application followed by mailing them your first deposit cheque to link your existing checking account from another financial institution.</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hsbc_signup.jpg" alt="Sign up page HSBC Direct" /></p>
<p>The sign-up process was seamless and the ATM Card along with the PIN was mailed within about 5 business days (to change the PIN, just visit an HSBC Branch).  I then contacted customer service to get set up for telephone and online banking.</p>
<p>As stated above, I find the Direct Savings Account is your best all-in-one solution for banking. Absolutely free transaction banking with no monthly fees, no maintenance fees, no account fees, and no transfer fees.  Free unlimited bill payments and pre-authorized debits along with free bank-to-bank transfers. My initial transfer was a bank to bank transfer from my checking account with <a href="http://www.pcfinancial.ca" title="PC Financial online">PC Financial</a> (CIBC) to the Direct Savings Account.</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hsbc_transfer.jpg" alt="Transfer page HSBC Direct" /></p>
<p>As you know with most all banks, although you will see the funds from the bank-to-bank transfer in your savings account the next day, they will hold the funds for about 5-10 business days while the funds clear your linked checking account.</p>
<p>ATM Deposits might be your way around this.  Another great service from HSBC is that they are connected to THE EXCHANGE network so you will not have to drive far to look for a HSBC ATM. This will allow you to make free withdrawals and deposits from any Bank of Montreal ATM as well as any other ATMs connected to THE EXCHANGE network (National Bank of Canada, Alterna Savings, etc). Just visit <a href="http://www.the-exchange.ca/" title="The Exchange">www.the-exchange.ca</a> to find the closest ATM. Your question here might be, do they hold funds you deposit at an ATM? I believe when my account was set up, they had a hold on any deposits exceeding $100. I called into customer service and asked if they would increase this $100 limit. I believe they had to do a credit check of some sort, but I was able to have it increased to $1000 with no hold. (They also increased my ATM cash withdrawal daily limit to $600 and my Interact purchases daily limit to $2000.)</p>
<p>So I was set. With the free unlimited ATM withdrawals and interact purchases, I decided to set up payroll deposits with my employer and also pre-authorized payments for my car payments and insurance. If you need to set up pre-authorized payments with any bill companies, you obviously will not be able to send the company a cheque (this is one of the things lacking with this account, but then again, most banks do not offer cheques on their savings, so I cannot complain), you will need to visit a HSBC branch and ask them for a Void Cheque Form.</p>
<p>I cannot complain too much about the interest on this account. When I signed up, it was at about 3.75%. The interest has fluctuated between 3-5% over the past 15 months. The recent promo (Feb 4th to May 2nd) was for new and existing customers giving a 4.75% rate on balances exceeding the balance you had on February 4th (otherwise you were only getting the normal rate of 3.30%). To get around this, I opened up a second Direct Savings Account when the promo began and kept most of my funds in that account while transferring funds I needed into my first Direct Savings Account. Unlike PC Financial, all transfers within HSBC accounts are instant with no delays.</p>
<p>Since opening up the two Direct Savings Accounts with HSBC, I’ve opened up two U.S. Savings accounts (a High Rate U.S. Savings account along with a Regular U.S. Savings account). The Regular U.S. Savings account is also a no fees account. (Although I cannot make purchases with this account, I am able to make free deposits / withdrawals with a branch service person as well as unlimited free transfers online. The High Rate U.S. Savings account only gives you the open for unlimited transfers through online banking, so you would have to build your U.S. Funds in this account and then transfer it online to your Regular U.S. Savings account and withdraw with a HSBC branch service person. I also opened up an RRSP Account earlier this year and contributed some funds to take advantage of their 4% promo rate without having to be locked in.</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hsbc_accounts.jpg" alt="Accounts page HSBC Direct" /></p>
<p>As for online options, you are able to request to have your statements mailed to you or to view them online or both. Here are a few settings you can change with your online profile.</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hsbc_profile.jpg" alt="Profile page HSBC Direct" /></p>
<p>Contacting customer service has always been great. I always get through to speaking to someone right away. Though one problem I find is if you make any special requests like the one I mentioned earlier about increasing your hold limit on deposits at ATMs, you will need to speak to your banking advisor, which is someone in Vancouver who takes care of Direct Savings Accounts. If this person is not available, you will have to leave a message and wait for him / her to contact you back.</p>
<p>The one negative encounter I did have with HSBC is when I lost my ATM Card on a Thursday evening. I went to an HSBC Branch Friday morning to get another one. They were able to provide one to me, but I was not able to use it for ATM / debit purchases for 2 business days. This meant having to wait until Tuesday to have access to my funds (although online banking was available). That Friday morning I had to transfer money from the Direct Savings Account to the U.S. account, then see the branch service person to withdraw the U.S. funds (while transferring it back to Canadian currency), so I could have some money for the weekend as my debit card was not usable.  I had lost some money on the double conversion there. Keep in mind here, that HSBC Bank personnel do not have access to the Direct Savings Account &#8212; you will need to do all your transactions where this account is concerned all by telephone or online.</p>
<p>To wrap up this review, I would have to say my experience with HSBC as a whole has been very positive. From their free unlimited transactions, to their free unlimited ATM / debit access to their high interest rates, you really cannot ask for more. Customer service people are in Canada and always available (no hold times as of yet). Though I have read some people’s complaints about the online access, I myself am pretty happy with it. If you have the same banking needs as I do, I’m sure you will enjoy HSBC’s online Direct Savings Account. In my opinion, no other bank can compare.</p>
<h3>Latest posts in the <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct">HSBC Direct forum</a></h3>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-introduces-monthly-maintenance-fee-for-passbook-savings-accounts/">HSBC introduces monthly maintenance fee for passbook savings accounts</a></p>
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<p>June 28, 2010<br />4:07 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-introduces-monthly-maintenance-fee-for-passbook-savings-accounts/#p3217">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>July 29, 2010<br />4:36 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-introduces-monthly-maintenance-fee-for-passbook-savings-accounts/#p3302">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>HSBC Direct</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-bill-payment-question/">HSBC Bill Payment Question</a></p>
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<p>July 24, 2010<br />9:28 am by<br />techie<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-bill-payment-question/#p3277">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>July 27, 2010<br />8:52 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-bill-payment-question/#p3285">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>HSBC Direct</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-advance-proposition-launches/">HSBC Advance Proposition Launches</a></p>
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<p>March 30, 2010<br />5:09 pm by<br />Doug<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-advance-proposition-launches/#p2940">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>April 10, 2010<br />6:57 pm by<br />H<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-advance-proposition-launches/#p2972">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-ends-atm-agreement-with-bmo/">HSBC Ends ATM Agreement with BMO</a></p>
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<p>February 6, 2010<br />5:08 am by<br />djino<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/hsbc-direct/hsbc-ends-atm-agreement-with-bmo/#p2759">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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		<title>7 tips on how to decrease reliance (and fees) on your chequing account &#8212; by Peter</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the proliferation of high interest savings accounts, the chequing account is looking more and more unattractive. With zero to low interest and tons of fees (I cringe at the reports that say the average person pays over $200 a year in fees), you&#8217;re sometimes better off keeping cash under your mattress.  Even the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the proliferation of high interest savings accounts, the <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/?p=26" title="Comparison of Canadian chequing accounts by Leah">chequing account</a> is looking more and more unattractive. With zero to low interest and tons of fees (I cringe at the reports that say the average person pays over $200 a year in fees), you&#8217;re sometimes better off keeping cash under your mattress.  Even the chequing account of all chequing accounts (at Coast Capital Savings) still has some drawbacks. For example, it gives you 0% interest and you have to pay for cheques after your first 10.</p>
<p>The only reason why I keep a chequing account is so that I can deposit the occasional foreign currency cheque with a teller and so that I can write cheques (although some <a href="https://www.citizensbank.ca/Personal/Products/BankAccounts/InvestmentAccount/" title="Citizens Bank">hybrid accounts</a> let you write cheques). However, I try to keep as little money as possible in my chequing account at all times.</p>
<p>Is it possible to experience high interest, no fees, and still have access to your money when you need it?  No single account satisfies this, but as with most things in life, you can tweak your habits to improve you situation.  Most day-to-day fees and hassles involve debit card and ATM transactions, cheques, bill payments, and transfers.  Here are some simple tips that can help you to address these issues to get the most out of your bank accounts.</p>
<h3>Use credit cards as much as possible</h3>
<p>Stores would probably prefer that you use cash, but to the consumer, using a credit card helps you in three ways. First of all, you can perform unlimited credit card transactions (well, as long as you have the money for it). With many debit cards, your chequing account only allows you a certain number of transactions per month. Second, many credit cards have no annual fee and give you rewards like cash back or points to buy groceries and such.  Third, you only have to pay off your credit card once a month.  This means that you can continue to earn interest on money that sits in your bank account for up to two months before you have to pay off your credit card bill without penalty.</p>
<p>Of course, you have to be careful with credit cards.  If you carry debt on the card, then obviously you are being charged interest.  Also, if you have trouble spending money that you don&#8217;t have, credit cards exaggerate the problem.  But keep track of your purchases and you should have no problem.</p>
<h3>Pay your bills online or via telephone</h3>
<p>Often, paying your bills online or via telephone is free.  You don&#8217;t need to write a cheque, you don&#8217;t need to mail anything, and you don&#8217;t need to drive anything. In addition, online of phone payments are often posted the next day, so you don&#8217;t have to wait the week or more with other types of payments.</p>
<h3>Use PayPal</h3>
<p>With <a href="http://www.paypal.com" title="Online payment system">PayPal</a>, once you have linked your bank account to your PayPal account, you can pay people via &#8220;pre-authorized payments&#8221;.  This is different than debit card payments because there are often chequing account limits and fees on debit card transactions but none on pre-authorized payments (although you should check this with your bank).</p>
<p>Although PayPal became big because of eBay, you can use PayPal to pay for items and subscriptions on an increasing number of websites.</p>
<p>If you and your friends have PayPal accounts of the &#8220;Personal&#8221; type, you can pay each other instantly and without fees via pre-authorized payments. This lessens your need to carry around as much cash (thus lowering the need to go to an ATM) or write cheques.</p>
<h3>Try and get your friends to open accounts with the same bank</h3>
<p>Often, <a href="http://www.theblog.ca/citizens-bank-pay-friend" title="Article where I gave an example with Citizens Bank">transfers within the same bank</a> are unlimited and free.  I have a friend that I&#8217;m constantly lending and owing money to.  We pay each other back instantly and without fees through online banking because we both have accounts with the same bank.</p>
<h3>Carry some cash around and don&#8217;t use other networks&#8217; ATMs!</h3>
<p>ATM network fees are a pain.  But really, just find an ATM that is part of your bank&#8217;s network! For example, if you have an account with HSBC or any of the credit unions, you can use ATMs on any other HSBC or credit union <a href="http://www.the-exchange.ca/atmlocator.aspx?pageID=1006" title="No fee ATMs!">THE EXCHANGE Network</a> (I think it&#8217;s officially capitalized) without paying any fees. As another example, if you have an account with PC Financial, you can use any CIBC bank machine without paying network fees.</p>
<p>And if you have at least a couple hundred dollars in your chequing account, whenever you withdraw cash, just try and withdraw larger amounts at a time (like $200 instead of $60).  This might sound simple too simplistic, but I used to always withdraw the smallest amount needed; it made a huge difference to withdraw slightly higher amounts in order to decrease the frequency of trips to the ATM.</p>
<h3>Don&#8217;t be afraid of opening multiple accounts at different banks</h3>
<p>Many chequing accounts that have no minimum balance simply limit the number of transactions you can do.  So if you have $200, you can just keep $100 in one account and $100 in another account and thus get double the number of allowed transactions. And if you have accounts at different banks, this means that you have probably increased the number of ATMs you can access without incurring network fees.</p>
<h3>Pick a high interest savings account over short-term GICs and pair a high interest savings account with a chequing account in the same bank</h3>
<p>This goal of this tip is to help you earn a high rate on your money while keeping the money accessible.</p>
<p>High interest savings account rates are comparable to short-term GIC rates, but of course you don&#8217;t have to lock your money in. If you keep as much money as possible in a high interest savings account and have a chequing account with the same bank, you can transfer money back and forth as many times as you want between those accounts either instantly or within 1 business day on an as-needed basis. So if you know you need to write a cheque on a certain date, simply transfer your money last-minute from your high interest savings account to your chequing account. This trades off the additional simple step in order to access your money for chequing needs with the ability to earn a higher rate on your money.</p>
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<h3>August 3, 2007</h3>
<p>I am in the process of “trying” to open an online savings account with ICICI Canada. I went through their online application about three weeks ago and sent an initial deposit cheque as they instructed. About five days later, I got a generic email from ICICI advising that they received my deposit cheque, but I needed to call them for unspecified reasons before they could process it. I called their “customer service” number and spoke with a lady who had a very heavy Indian accent (I assume ICICI has farmed their call centre to some contractor located in India). She informed me that I needed to send them copies of two pieces of identification, one of which had to be my Social Insurance Card, and the other a piece of photo ID such as a driver’s license or passport. This is the first time I had ever been asked to do this by any bank offering online services, but as I have nothing to hide, and privacy is an illusion in this country anyway, I went along and faxed copies of my SIN and driver’s license to the fax number the lady provided me. That was two weeks ago, haven’t heard a peep from ICICI since. I plan on calling them to find out what is going on. Somehow, I expect to be told that they never received the ID documents, or that they “lost” my deposit cheque.</p>
<p>I agree with other posters about the lack of a “warm fuzzy feeling” when dealing with ICICI. I had originally planned to transfer the cash portion of my RRSP holdings to this bank, but I’m having second thoughts about entrusting ICICI with my retirement savings. I’ve read some other blogs on this bank, most of which lambasted the abysmal customer service. Some posters reported problems getting credit for promotions (e.g. $20 referral for account opening, etc…). Others reported intermittent access to online accounts and delays getting funds transferred. I also have a funny feeling about their current 4.5% interest rate. Is there anyone else out there who suspects that ICICI will pull a fast one a few months down the road and lower their rate back down to 4.0%? If you look at their online rate history, you will notice that their most recent jump from 3.75% to 4.5% is way out of proportion with previous rate hikes. I suspect the current rate of 4.5% is really a promotional rate in disguise. Only time will tell I guess. I plan to keep a very modest amount in my ICICI account (if I ever get one) and see what happens.</p>
<h3>August 7, 2007</h3>
<p>I called ICICI “customer service” and spoke with yet another lady who had a very heavy Indian accent (NOTE: I have nothing against India or Indians, it is just very frustrating having to ask someone to repeat herself 3-4 times so I can understand what she is saying). I advised the lady that I had faxed the identification documents that ICICI requested. The lady put me on hold for 5 minutes while she searched for the fax. When she returned, she advised that they had received my fax, but the ID documents could not be read because of poor fax quality. When i asked why ICICI had not bothered to call or email me to explain this, she advised that it was MY responsibility to call THEM. I held my temper and explained that I had used the highest resolution setting possible to send the fax, but I would try to re-send it again anyway. The lady advised me to call “customer service” about 3 hours after sending the fax to confirm that the fax was acceptable. I’ll probably get around to doing this tomorrow.</p>
<p>ICICI is not making a good impression on me to say the least. If they have further “problems” with my follow-up fax, I may just put a stop payment on my initial deposit cheque and tell them to stuff their savings account. PC financial is looking to be a much better choice at the moment. Their rate is currently 4% (0.5% less than ICICI, and you have to maintain a mimimum balance), but at least they are a subsidiary of a major Canadian bank (CIBC) and their customer service reps all speak coherent english (at least the ones I’ve dealt with).</p>
<h3>August 8, 2007</h3>
<p>Tried to re-fax copies of my ID. TWICE. Total of three times. Both cases today were the same. I was expected to fax the info then call THEM. Both times, they said ythey couldn’t read the fax. The originals are high-quality photocopies. ZThe fax machine I am using is a high-quality office fax. GET A NEW FAX MACHINE ICICI CANADA!!!!!!</p>
<p>So now I have to mail the ID documents in. Maybe I’ll send them COD and see what happens…</p>
<p>Not liking ICICI…</p>
<h3>August 13, 2007</h3>
<p>Received an email from ICICI Canada on August 11 (Saturday) saying something to the effect of “welcome to ICICI, your new savings account has been opened”. Also noticed that my first deposit cheque was cashed with a posting date of August 9. The email also said that I would be receiving a user ID and password to access their online banking website. Presumably this information will come by regular mail if ICICI follows the standard practices of the other online banks.</p>
<p>These events were unexpected considering the hassle that ICICI is putting me through vis a vis my identification documents (see previous posts). I still have not sent copies of my ID docs by mail. I think I will wait a week or so to see if the account info arrives. Maybe somebody at ICICI actually took a few moments to have a closer look at my faxes and were able to read my ID docs. Or maybe they are just a typical bloated bureaucracy where the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing. My money is on the latter scenario. We’ll see what happens…</p>
<h3>August 17, 2007</h3>
<p>Received a password to access my savings account on ICICI’s website in the mail yesterday. I guess they figured they were causing themselves as much hassle with the ID documents (see previous posts) as they were causing me…</p>
<p>Thing is, I still can’t access my funds online yet because ICICI hasn’t sent me a “Customer ID Number”. That is apparently supposed to be sent by mail as well. When you first sign up with them by internet, they assign you something called a “Temporary Reference Number” which is not the same thing. Hopefully this “Customer ID number” will be in the mail tonight.</p>
<p>Why do I have a feeling that their e-commerce website is going to be a joke…</p>
<h3>August 20, 2007</h3>
<p>FINALLY, I have an ICICI “HiSave” account. Yippee.</p>
<p>Received ICICI’s “welcome package” by mail today, which consisted of a one-page “welcome” letter and about three pounds worth of “terms and conditions” pamphlets. The welcome letter also included the “customer ID number” needed to login to the bank’s website.</p>
<p>Of course, when I used the customer ID number and password supplied by ICICI, I got a message saying “Invalid Login ID or Password”. At this point, nothing surprises me with this bank. Their login “help” page says to type in my “ten digit customer ID number”. The number given to me is only nine digits. Hmmmmm. Called ICICI customer service and explained the problem, which, in all fairness to ICICI, was fixed promptly (although no explanation was offered for the cause of the problem in the first place). I can now see my account details, which appear to be accurate, and the interest rate is actually 4.5% as it should be. My linked chequing account appears to be correct as well.</p>
<p>“All’s well that ends well” I guess, although I have to say that of all the online banks I’ve dealt with, ICICI’s application process was by far the worst.</p>
<p>So now I’ll shift my attention to how ICICI delivers their services. I’ll be watching for things like fund transfer time (does the bank show a negative bias towards withdrawals), excessive hold-times on incoming deposits, and whether or not ICICI drops their industry-leading 4.5% CAD savings rate down in a few months to something in the order of 4% to 4.2%. I still have a funny feeling that their current rate is really a promotional rate in disguise. I’ll bet the rate will come down if the Bank of Canada doesn’t raise the overnight rate again in September.</p>
<h3>August 28, 2007</h3>
<p>Haven’t transferred any money yet, so I can’t comment on whether ICICI’s system works. I’ll be doing that soon enough though.</p>
<p>I wanted to put a quick post up here about the Bank of Canada’s pending rate decision (September 7 I believe) and ICICI’s current direct savings “rate” of 4.5%. There has been a lot of rumbling in the financial press lately that the BoC will not raise the overnight rate, mostly because of the cooling of the US housing market caused by the subprime mortgage debacle (these days, it seems like the only qualification to get a mortgage is that you have a pulse). Anyway, I posted some time ago that I felt that ICICI’s savings “rate” of 4.5% is really a promotional rate in disguise. I strongly believe that if the BoC keeps the overnight rate where it is, ICICI will shortly thereafter lower their savings “rate” down to something in line with the other online savings banks (currently between 3.75% and 4.0%, excluding introductory promotional rates).</p>
<p>I suppose one could argue that there is nothing wrong with ICICI attracting new customers this way, but I think it’s highly unethical if not illegal (all the other banks lure customers with promotional rates or one-time cash payouts to sign up with them). I originally planned to deposit the cash portion of my RRSP portfolio with this bank, but I am holding off for this reason (some banks charge a fee to transfer out RRSP accounts, and they take forever to process the transaction as well, sometimes as long as a month).</p>
<h3>September 21, 2007</h3>
<p>I see from looking at ICICI Canada’s homepage that I’m not the only one who thinks their current interest rate of 4.5% is really a promotional rate. ICICI is telling people through their site that their rate is not a “promotional time offer”. I’m still not convinced. Isn’t it interesting that every other bank and credit union that offers high-yield savings acocunts offer rates that are below the Bank of Canada’s current overnight rate (4.5%)? To my knowlege, the next highest-yielding Canadian savings account is offered by Achieva Financial, an arm of a Manitoba Credit Union. Their rate is currently 4.35%. My gut feeling is that ICICI is subsidizing this current rate from other sources of revenue to try and lure as many depositors as they can. When they reach some critical mass of depositors (as determined by their bean-counters), they will yank their rate back down to something in line with the other online banks, and hope that you can’t be bothered to transfer-out all your savings when that happens. We’ll see what happens in the next several months.</p>
<p>On another note, I opened an online RSP savings acocunt with ICICI, and funded it with a small amount from my existing ICICI online savings acocunt. The RSP account was successfully created in 2 days. There is a problem though. ICICI’s web interface allows me to transfer funds in to the newly-created RSP account, BUT IT DOES NOT ALLOW ME TO TRANSFER FUNDS OUT! I’m going to give them a call and find out what gives. All the other online banks allow you to electronically transfer funds out of RSP savings accounts through their website (less the statutory withholding taxes of course). If it turns out that ICICI insists that I fill out and mail a form to transfer funds out of my RSP account, I am going to be pissed. One of the reasons to have part of your RSP holdings in cash is to have liquid funds that are available in an emergency should the need arise. I don’t want to wait weeks for my money if I have an emergency and need it NOW.</p>
<h3>September 24, 2007</h3>
<p>I spoke with a “Customer Service Representative” at ICICI today and asked the person why I could not electronically transfer-out funds from a RSP Savings Account. The representative indicated that they “do not allow that”. Apparently, the only way you can get at your RSP funds is if you send the bank a “letter of direction” stating that you want to withdraw funds. The bank will then issue a bank draft, less the witholding taxes. The bank does not even have a form to help you with this. They make it very easy to get money in, but it’s not so easy to get it out when you need it. Granted, registered funds are supposed to be long-term investments, but if you have an emergency and you need access to your RSP funds in a hurry, your only option would be to drive to an ICICI bank branch (very few of these) and wait in line. If you live far away from major centers like Toronto where the branches are, you can forget about quick access to your cash. Other online banks (e.g. ING Direct) let you do an online transfer out of your RSP account to your other online accounts or your linked chequing accounts, and the system just deducts the appropriate witholding taxes at that time.</p>
<p>I’m not yet abandoning the idea of putting RSP cash in this bank, but this is really giving me pause.</p>
<h3>September 27, 2007</h3>
<p>I had actually gone so far as to fill in an ICICI application to transfer a large amount of RRSP savings funds from another bank to ICICI, and had sealed the envelope and put a stamp on it. That was two days ago. Instead of mailing the envelope, I set it aside for some sober second thought. Am I glad I did that! I figured that I would be more comfortable with my money at a Canadian bank where people speak coherent english (most of the time), and that I would be willing to forego a few tenths of a percentage point on the interest rate to make that happen. I just finished opening an online RRSP Savings account at PC Financial, and I just came here now to post that fact. I considered opening one at Achieva Financial at 4.35% (a credit union in Manitoba), but they are not set up to do online RSP fund transfers between linked accounts (at least they were up-front about that, unlike ICICI), so the money would not have been readily available in an emergency. PC Financial allows online transfers of RSP funds, both in AND out. And yes, 4.25% is not bad, especially considering that they are affiliated with CIBC, the biggest nickel-and-dime-the-customer-to-death chartered bank in the country (in my opinion, don’t get me started on that…).</p>
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<p>November 23, 2008<br />2:07 am by<br />Tim<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/please-send-me-icici-promo-code/#p876">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>May 30, 2010<br />9:35 am by<br />Voodoo guest<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/ref/#p3102">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/please-send-me-the-promo-code/">Please send me the promo code</a></p>
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<p>May 14, 2010<br />6:19 am by<br />Vamsi<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/please-send-me-the-promo-code/#p3072">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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		<title>ICICI Bank Canada online interface review &#8212; by Peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following my review series on ICICI Bank Canada, I&#8217;ve explored the ICICI online interface a bit, so here&#8217;s my rather short review. The negative comments about ICICI on the other posts on this site make me reluctant to put much of my money in ICICI, but I can say that the online interface is rather [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following my <a href="/?p=25">review series on ICICI Bank Canada</a>, I&#8217;ve explored the ICICI online interface a bit, so here&#8217;s my rather short review. The negative comments about ICICI on the other posts on this site make me reluctant to put much of my money in ICICI, but I can say that the online interface is rather easy to use&#8230; and since I plan on interacting with customer service as little as possible, the online experience had better be good!</p>
<p>So far at ICICI, I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum?forum=2&#038;topic=25&#038;page=1" title="Here's the foum post where I talked about it">made an external transfer</a>, sent referral e-mails to two people and looked at my account history online. The interface is simple and gives me the information requested (unlike the main ICICI website, which I&#8217;ve found to be quite confusing at times).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a screenshot of the ICICI online interface:</p>
<p><img src="/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/icici_interface.jpg" alt="A screenshot of the ICICI online interface" /></p>
<p>Things you can do in this interface include:</p>
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<li>View account summary</li>
<li>Export account history to various formats (plain text, Excel, Microsoft Money)</li>
<li>Open new accounts (like RSPs, and term deposits)</li>
<li>Make incoming and outgoing transfers to linked accounts</li>
<li>Change your mailing address, e-mail address, and password</li>
<li>Refer people to earn money through their referral plan</li>
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<p>One cool feature is that you can see a summary of who you have referred and whether they have submitted an application yet (although that doesn&#8217;t mean that their account has been opened yet).</p>
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<p>November 23, 2008<br />2:07 am by<br />Tim<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/please-send-me-icici-promo-code/#p876">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>July 29, 2010<br />3:28 pm by<br />Judie<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/please-send-me-icici-promo-code/page-5/#p3301">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/can-you-please-send-me-the-promo-code-for-icici-bank-nri-ac-thanks/">Can you please send me the PROMO code for ICICI bank NRI a/c&#8230;&#8230;.Thanks </a></p>
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<p>June 22, 2010<br />11:23 am by<br />Rinku<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/can-you-please-send-me-the-promo-code-for-icici-bank-nri-ac-thanks/#p3193">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>June 22, 2010<br />11:23 am by<br />Rinku<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/can-you-please-send-me-the-promo-code-for-icici-bank-nri-ac-thanks/#p3193">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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<p>May 16, 2010<br />6:49 pm by<br />Jesus<br /><a href="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/forum/icici-bank/ref/#p3078">&nbsp;<img src="http://www.highinterestsavings.ca/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/gopost.png" alt="" title="Go to Post" /></a></p>
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